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broster
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this one wasnt so ace
ed
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this is the wrong sort of valve compressor, you need one for a multi valve engine.
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they made single valve engines??????
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i'd leave the lifters in oil if i was you and did you number them so you know where they came from?

don't forget to number the valves too !!!!! also are you re-seating the valves ?
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Its great fun putting the collets back in! lol I used thick grease to stick them in place and needle nose pliers.


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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
they made single valve engines??????
No, but the valve compessor he needs is called a multi valve spring compressor. That sort is for an 8v style head not a 16v style head.
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Originally posted by Sly_SRi
Its great fun putting the collets back in! lol I used thick grease to stick them in place and needle nose pliers.
Thats the best way to do it Still took me about 4 hours to do all 16
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Yep Id go with the hammer to get the valves out you just need a good hit so that it compresses the spring a bit and releases the collets just keep your eye on them
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the plastic tray has all the hydraulic lifters in it. I have them all lined up they way they came out. I have it all sitting like that so i can put it back together as it came apart. just as long as nobody moves anything

bits i have taken off


Going to change valve spring compressor today
how/why do i reseat the valve

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To re-seat the valve you get a grinding stick and some grinding paste.

You put some course paste onto the valve and then attatch the stick (it sticks on with a suction cup) then twist it about between your hands for a 5 seconds, you then wipe the course grinding paste off and do the same with some fine grinding paste...
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yeah i seen one of these when i bought my valve compressor.
Is it worth doing?
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I wish I could do things like that.
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yeah, re-seat the valves, might aswell seen as your stripping the head down. doesnt take to long just is boring as hell, so have some herb at hand to smoke i say
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
I wish I could do things like that.


me to
a_j_mair
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got a new valve spring compressor tonight. worked no problem on the 8 outer valves but had to put a socket over them for 8 inner ones
like this


will have to cut it and weld a small extension in it.

Anyway got them all out and gave them a wee clean. have removed all the valve stem seals aswell.




Tommorrows plan is to try see guy about some powder coating
get a valve seat grinder
and get a few nits at scrappyy, couple screws and a wire clip from a connector

oh and a pic of how i have laid it all out on table so i no where it allgoes back


Have a slight worry about the valves will get pictures in a min.

So all in all it isnt going to bad. Have found a few problems which i am happy about as there is definetaly a good chance it should be running way better once put back together.
Not heard anything about my eecu that was sent away to get tested, will phone them tommorrow aswell

[Edited on 18-11-2005 by a_j_mair]

[Edited on 18-11-2005 by a_j_mair]
Jake
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i reseat valves for abit longer than 5 seconds to be honest. Just get it so both surfaces are completely smooth.
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oh and all the new bits going on
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the bashing them with a socket and hammer is a perfectly normal way to do it, ask any engin ebuilder how they do it. Much quicker, less hassle. Just do it on a thick bit of foam.
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i am needing more details on how to grind the valve seats. I got a valve seat grinder today. it is 20mm.
This is what i think i do
Put some course paste on back of valve face, put in correct seating and rotate it backwards and forwards using grinder between palms of the hands.

The bit i am not sure about is where the paste goes?
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sussed it out and have all the valve re seated
just looking at them you can see they are sitting far better than they were when i removed the head. really happy how things are going
Going to get the compressor to blow out and clean the cylinder head before i refit the valves

Going to refit the 4 outer valves on each side then i am going to need to midify the valve spring remover to get the 8 centre ones refitted

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