corsasport.co.uk
  Not logged in [Login - Register]  
You Are Not Registered Or Not Logged In  

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » Projects and Builds » My x16xe project (update 4-7 graph online!)


New Topic
New Poll 		  <<  1    2    3    4    5  >> Subscribe | Add to Favourites

You are not logged in and may not post or reply to messages. Please log in or create a new account or mail us about fixing an existing one - register@corsasport.co.uk

There are also many more features available when you are logged in such as private messages, buddy list, location services, post search and more.


Author My x16xe project (update 4-7 graph online!)
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
29th Jun 05 at 21:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Mantzel opel tuning
autech GmbH
Zum Eisenhammer 3
46049 Oberhausen
Tel: 0208 / 85059-0
Fax: 0208 / 85059-20
E-Mail: info@mantzel.de

Ansprechpartner:
Herr Mario Coric-Ufermann

Registergericht: Duisburg
HRB-Nummer: 17615
Umsatzsteuernr.: DE 814260370

Aufrufe bisher: 7731
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
29th Jun 05 at 21:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i think the regular bolts will hold on as i expect to have the max bhp @ 7000 rpm and the revlimit goes to 7800 no need to go further then 7500 though
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
29th Jun 05 at 21:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
torque is another guestion

i cant really guess what to expect on that...

we'll see
willay
Moderator
Organiser: South East, National Events
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 10th Nov 02
Location: Roydon, Essex
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 06:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
5chaap2k, congradulations on a really good thread, really like the pictures and information provided.

Look forward to updates
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 08:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i've got some old pics of the engine deheaded if interested..
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 08:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Okay, because u all like to watch pictures

My powerbox conversion

Dutch description howto install:
http://www.corsa-novatuning.nl/nl/Tuning1416B.htm

My powerbox conversion



bought it second hand so it was in need for a respray and cleaning:




Before:


After:


With all nedded parts collected:


and lets put it on then:








Wich Resulted in:


what was left over:
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 09:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Deheading before rebuild



















[Edited on 30-06-2005 by 5chaap2k]
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the new gasket:


skimmed and cleaned head with the new seals in:
Ojc
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 09:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Excellent pics

I think a announcment needs to be made about Mantzel still being in business.
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 09:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
in holland there were also rumors because they requested a failisement.

but it was just a restart

dont forget to put their new website within the announcement!

1 thing. due to an overload of emails mantzel stopped replying so faxing or calling is the best way to contact them

http://www.mantzel.de
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
30th Jun 05 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ah, and while im posting pictures anyway

some maintenance picts

Changing fuel filter:















Cleaning accelleratorhousing and ICV





before:


after:
Ojc
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline
1st Jul 05 at 11:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I note a Nova GSi
Cybermonkey
Member
Registered: 22nd Sep 02
Location: Sydney, Australia
User status: Offline
1st Jul 05 at 12:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thats pretty cool! bet it really shifts! hows the overfuelling?
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
1st Jul 05 at 22:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm back from mantzel now

It was a great day!
phone movie: (i know bad Q.)
http://fluitje.xs4all.nl/ctc/dyno-graphs/5chaap2k/5chaap2k-mantzel.avi

Pic's:
I didn't really take the time to use the camera

I'll just wait till the other's picst arrive..


2Sec's after departing allready stuck in traffic.. jay!


Okay plant that red nut and give it a roll




Mantzel uses the BOSH dyno


dont know why i took this pict or what i was aiming at..

The results where
155,04 PS @7600RPM

The power doesnt drop after reaching its max, it becomes a straight line into the raised revlimiter @ 7850 RPM

the cams are DEFO no 260 degr.. at least 280 mantzel thinks so kent-cams is going to hear something bout that from me..

but the ride had improved a lot!

only thing whe didnt get past was a Volkswagen Golf TDI with 175PS/432Nm

no wonder haha

but we did stay on to him
CorsaJunkie
Member
Registered: 2nd Feb 03
Location: Athens
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 00:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
nice thread, nice photos, good job on the motor!
Just a question, irrelevant to all the mechanical stuff you ve just explained... Have you made your own grill?
CorsaJunkie
Member
Registered: 2nd Feb 03
Location: Athens
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 00:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i mean this
Adam-D
Member
Registered: 11th May 02
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 06:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
what are the total list of mods?
and do you have a graph of the power?
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 08:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i'll scan the graph next monday (work) and the list of mods is already in this topic on the 1st page
Adam-D
Member
Registered: 11th May 02
Location: Cheshire
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 17:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cheers mate

would you get better power with different cams?
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorsaJunkie
nice thread, nice photos, good job on the motor!
Just a question, irrelevant to all the mechanical stuff you ve just explained... Have you made your own grill?


it's a kamei grille, painted silver and i pasted the 16V logo from the trunk on it, then i took the quickrepair laquerstick and painted the 16V red

about the cams.. i just love the performance even if they are not the 260 degree cams i expected to have.. even after the allready raised revlimiter the power just keeps on going @ 155PS and doesn't drop so i'm satisfied!

but Í just want to know what cams i got and what went wrong.. the only thing NEAR the COR1612 are the 1615 cams and those are 296degr...
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
2nd Jul 05 at 22:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
P.S. pics are all down atm cuz my gf couldnt sleep with the server making noise

will be back up tomorrow
AK
Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline
3rd Jul 05 at 04:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i had a sim prob with my cams....

Pretty sure they were not what i thought they were...

I drove a car x14xe, same as my old, with supposedly the same cams (piper 256)

mine ripped it to shit.... but i had major probs getting mine to idle nice, stop cutting out on over run etc....

In the end i just though fuckit and raised the idle speed to 1020rpm.... sounded like a bloody rally car popping and splutting at idle!....

really really picked up at 3500rpm though...

pity i got bored and sold my Mantzel on before i fitted it

5chaap2k - your cams cant be that lairy (wild) as your valves havent touched your pistons yet have they? Cant r'ber what the max lift is before you get contact between valves and pistons...

My new cams in the c20xe are 280+ with 11+ lift (i think)
Ojc
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline
3rd Jul 05 at 09:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I would imagine his cams to be 264's
5chaap2k
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 05
Location: Schiedam, Netherlands
User status: Offline
3rd Jul 05 at 22:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
next time I'm going to open the engine-cap i'll let the cams get measured..

i got the other pictures now but no software to resize them on this comp..

will do some proper resizing and posting tomorrow

till then just 1 mspaint resized pict from the travel back from mantzel:
AK
Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline
4th Jul 05 at 04:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ace......

1.6 16v is a good engine

  <<  1    2    3    4    5  >>
New Topic
New Poll

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » Projects and Builds » My x16xe project (update 4-7 graph online!) 23 database queries in 0.1082520 seconds