Martin
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im a just a poor boy
from a poor family
will i need a bigger battery than my standard corsa c 1.2 one, powering:
x6 amp 1100rms@2ohm
directed 2400 amp 250rms i think...
just runnin 2 600rms rocky subs n 2 6x9s...
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AdiSRI
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simple answer, YES.
Im atm running a 200x 2 RMS amp on my comps, and a 300 x 1 RMS amp on the sub and the battery cant handle that...
my sub amp will be achanging to a 900w RMS amp soon, and i will be changing the battery before hand.
Y u powering 6x9's in rear with the amp, and not some front comps??
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Martin
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quote:
Originally posted by AdiSRI
simple answer, YES.
cheerz lol.
what type of battery, cause i have never looked into the world of batterys before
and i get the feelin u mite say a new alternator, im hopiong not thou, but if its gota be done, ill do it.
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Originally posted by AdiSRI
Y u powering 6x9's in rear with the amp, and not some front comps??
becuase i bort my 6x9's ages before i got subs. i will only have 6x9's runnin HPF on my amp. will defo get components in front door at some point, my 6x9s wont be in my final instal, there are just there til i get component money.
once subs, batter n wat ever is done, then ill finish it off with nice components in a door build 
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AdiSRI
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well im not gonna go mad on a yellow top or similar, the biggest exide ultima u can fit is a good bet...
alternator might be needed, im gonna do my battery and see wat happens, if i need an alt it will be done. Have you done the big 3?
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Martin
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Exide Ultima.. ill note that down. And its gota be 12v, yea?
i havent done the big 3 yet. thats wat ive been readin about thou on here.
ive only got 4AWG runnin to my amp, and 8awg runnin to the other.
does this mean i would only need to run 4AWG in the big three, or should i get 0AWG anyway?
how will i know if ill need a bigger alternator? do i just wait until my car conks out
Martin
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AdiSRI
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4 gauge should be ok for you in the big 3, but id run 0 gauge setup with that kinda power IMO.
Exide Ultima is a car battery so yeah its 12V, look at the one for corsa C 1.7TD or similar will be the biggest that fits in your car.
If you fit new battery and do the big 3 and it still dims with bass drops you need a new alternator really.
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Martin
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May aswel get the 0AWG then
what if i DONT get a new alternator if my lights dim? would this just run my battery flat after a while of continuous play, or would it melt my alternator, or would it just be annoying and look silly?
is a yellow top powerful enough not to need a bigger alternator? like i sez, ive never looked into the world of bigger batteries 
are you runnin 0AWG in you instal?
Martin
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Martin
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http://eurobatteries.com/sitepages/sla.asp
this place has aloada batteries  whats the whole AH and AHr thing about?
i see a 12v 90 Ah, max chargin current 22amps.. is this good for me mate?
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Richie
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i have a yellow top 
Rated at 690 cold cranking amps and 55ah, had it tested and its putting out 1134 cold cranking amps and 130 odd ah
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Martin
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So i know i need a bigger battery, richie u got a bigger alternator with that BIG battery?
is the 12v 60Ah big enough for my set up? and will it fit in my corsa c..?
Martin
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Martin
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anyone
help...
what a sxi 1.7 diesel battery be up to scratch..?
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AdiSRI
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look on exides website and get the model number for the ultima that goes in the diesel. post up the stats here and ill tell u if it will be ok.
as long as it is near 700CCA then it should be fine.
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Martin
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Richie
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Nah i dont have an uprated alt, i just pop it on a huge charger every 2 weeks to keep it going.
Must do some good because when the switch to the yellow top is turned off, the lights go dim when it is turned on everything glows brighter  this is with the engine running mind
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Pop
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
Nah i dont have an uprated alt, i just pop it on a huge charger every 2 weeks to keep it going.
Must do some good because when the switch to the yellow top is turned off, the lights go dim when it is turned on everything glows brighter this is with the engine running mind
do you use the yellow top as a second battery just for the ice then?
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Richie
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yup
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Richie
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got an Exide Ultima diesel battery up front
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Pop
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the standard alternator shouldn't have any problems just charging a single yellow top should it?
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Richie
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yeah it doesnt give it a decent charge compared to the amount of current draw from the ICE it has to deal with. After 2-3 weeks the lights start to dim when you turn the switch on which indicates its in need of a good chargin. Just think my alternator is 55a at 14.4v, my charger is 180 odd amps at 14.9-15v
[Edited on 08-02-2005 by Richie]
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
yeah it doesnt give it a decent charge compared to the amount of current draw from the ICE it has to deal with. After 2-3 weeks the lights start to dim when you turn the switch on which indicates its in need of a good chargin. Just think my alternator is 55a at 14.4v, my charger is 180 odd amps at 14.9-15v
[Edited on 08-02-2005 by Richie]
I'm just going to be using my yellow top as my only battery ... not planning a split charge system like yours. will I have to keep charging it myself do you think?
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Richie
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Its best to.
However, yellow tops arent designed to be an up front starting battery anyway, it cost me an extra £20 to set up my split charge system, so when i start the car it automatically shuts off the power to the yellow top so it only takes power from the diesel battery up front.
I can defo say that after 3 weeks i notice the subs sounding a bit sluggish, i whack my external charger on for a few hours, and bam its sounding great again.
Also to give you an idea, after leaving my car running at 2500rpm on my drive for 2 hours to see what charge it would give the yellow top, i tested the yellow top with a draper testing machine, and it read 650 odd CCA's and 60 odd amp hours.
After a charge with my mean external charger, it gave a reading of 1134CCA's and around 130ah, which is a crazy improvement.
Guy i know has a pug with two 250a alternators side by side he doesnt need an extra battery
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Martin
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
got an Exide Ultima diesel battery up front
where abouts you get this battery from?
i spent HOURS searching the web yesday (dial up ) and cant find one ANY WHERE...
Martin
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AdiSRI
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this is the one you want
http://global.exide.com/exideGlobalWeb/appmanager/global/home?_nfpb=true&portlet_1_1_actionOverride=%2Fcommerce%2Fcatalog%2FdisplayBatteryDetail&portlet_1_1productKey=W067TE&_windowLabel=portlet_1_1&_pageLabel=transportation_catalog_applications_page
same one as i am looking to get.
look on yell.com for local motor factors ad ring them most will sell exide batteries.
model number is W067TE
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Martin
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excellent mate.
it's comin up error on my puta for some reason, but il use the model number to search with
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AdiSRI
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http://www.exide.uk.com/
just go from there mate.
But as i say most local motor factors should be able to sell u it, ive not found anywhere online tho.
im not sure on price either, but shudnt be too hefty.
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