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Cybermonkey
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11th Aug 04 at 23:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have looked and looked everywhere i can think of on the net, but cannot find out what the fastest processor my motherboard supports. MSI are useless and wont respond to e-mails, the motherboard is an MSI 6382E V3 and chipset (if it matters) is a VIA Apollo KT266/A,KT333 . I currently have an AMD Athlon XP2200 @ 1800mhz. Help much appreciated!

Dave
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11th Aug 04 at 23:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dave, best thing to do is e-mail a computer shop and ask them as they might have tested that board with say an Athlon XP 3000+ CPU. One of them might even try a faster CPU in it for free if they don't know.

Try: -
http://www.aria.co.uk
http://www.dabs.com
http://www.computerplus.uk.com

Those are people i use and are quite good.

[Edited on 11-08-2004 by Peugeot Nut]
Ian
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11th Aug 04 at 23:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do you not have manual selection in the BIOS?
Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Do you not have manual selection in the BIOS?


No, my BIOS is cack, and it wont let me flash it to a more recent version either.

PN, might well do this, good idea. Will try and trace a few down here in sydney.
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Is that manual in the BIOS a new thing Ian? I've never seen or heard about that before. The last board i got was a year or so ago which has an Athlon XP 2000+ on. Could do with a CPU upgrade soon

[Edited on 11-08-2004 by Peugeot Nut]
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Yeah im looking for a 3000 if it will work!
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Manual selection - ie. the ability to choose clock speed yourself while in there.

Just had a read about and there's a few people talking about running XP2200s, and none faster I've seen. Might be bad news, that.
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Think they run on a 333 bus
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This is interesting though -

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/amd-barton/

"Therefore, the list of officially certified boards suitable for the Barton XP3000+ processor is rather scanty:

nVidia nForce2
ASUS A7N8X
SiS 745
ASUS A7S333
MSI MS-6561
VIA KT333
ASUS A7V333 rev1.04
ASUS A7V333 rev2.0
Biostar M7VIP
Epox EP-8K5A2
Gigabyte GA-7VR rev2.0
Jetway V333DA
Jetway V333U
MSI MS-6382E
MSI MS-6593
VIA KT400
Abit KD7
ASUS A7V8X rev1.04
Biostar M7VIK
Epox EP-8K9A2
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP rev1.0
Gigabyte GA-7VAX rev1.1
Gigabyte GA-7VA rev1.0
MSI KT4 Ultra
MSI MS-6596
MSI MS-6712"


[Edited on 12-08-2004 by Ian]
Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Manual selection - ie. the ability to choose clock speed yourself while in there.

Just had a read about and there's a few people talking about running XP2200s, and none faster I've seen. Might be bad news, that.


I though you meant the board manual How silly am i
dave17
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12th Aug 04 at 00:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

gota love ian, always there to help
Ian
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12th Aug 04 at 00:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also this - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlonxp-3000.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
This is interesting though -

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/amd-barton/

"Therefore, the list of officially certified boards suitable for the Barton XP3000+ processor is rather scanty:

nVidia nForce2
ASUS A7N8X
SiS 745
ASUS A7S333
MSI MS-6561
VIA KT333
ASUS A7V333 rev1.04
ASUS A7V333 rev2.0
Biostar M7VIP
Epox EP-8K5A2
Gigabyte GA-7VR rev2.0
Jetway V333DA
Jetway V333U
MSI MS-6382E
MSI MS-6593
VIA KT400
Abit KD7
ASUS A7V8X rev1.04
Biostar M7VIK
Epox EP-8K9A2
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP rev1.0
Gigabyte GA-7VAX rev1.1
Gigabyte GA-7VA rev1.0
MSI KT4 Ultra
MSI MS-6596
MSI MS-6712"


[Edited on 12-08-2004 by Ian]


Hmm that is interesting since i have a Thoroughbred. Didnt think the Barton would run on my MoBo??? Alothough the only difference between Thoroughbred and Barton is the 256kb extra L2 cache. very interesting indeed. I think i might try to contact AMD themselves.

Thanks very much Ian and others
Cybermonkey
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Ok a few more things if you could help Ian, according to the AMD website, AMD never made an XP2200 with an FSB of 333mhz. what could be going on? Im going to take it apart tomorow and get the codes off the chip to help.
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What makes you think its running at 333 FSB? The board will do 266 bus won't it? They're both a funny multiplier 6.75 for 266 and 5.4 for 333.
Cybermonkey
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12th Aug 04 at 10:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well when i boot up, it says next to the memory count, 166mhz, DDR 333mhz.
Cybermonkey
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12th Aug 04 at 11:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ian, me not happy



But when i bought the PC, Time sold it as a 333mhz FSB special, and look at the chipset info. Does it make any sense? NO! it says its 2 different chipsets???

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13th Aug 04 at 02:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TTT
Andrew
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I've come to the conclusion that if you PC is fast enough and does the job you want it to then just leave it.

I've got a prob with my HDD at the mo which keeps cutting out and restarts the PC every so often. So it looks like i need a new one.

Be careful when you take out the CPU as they are supper thin and easily crack.
Cybermonkey
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??? i was sold this PC under false pretences, therefore i want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes. Already found out this week that they supplied my athlon 2200+ with a 250w PSU. So im on the hunt for more ripped-off-ness. And its not fast enough anyhow. Needs to be faster. but cant upgrade unless i know whats going on with my chipset. also, im well aware of the dangers of messing around with the CPU, i put a little too much thermal paste on the last one. it smelled funny
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quote:
Originally posted by Peugeot Nut
I've come to the conclusion that if you PC is fast enough and does the job you want it to then just leave it.

I've got a prob with my HDD at the mo which keeps cutting out and restarts the PC every so often. So it looks like i need a new one.

Be careful when you take out the CPU as they are supper thin and easily crack.


Run the error checking on the HD and see what it finds. Also check your IDE cable. The HD on my PC was playing up yesterday dn freezing my comp. After finding bad sector errors and controler errors in the event viewer. I ran the error checking which fixed the bad sector, I hope. I then removed and and replugged back in the IDE cable. Since then no more probs. If you have a spare IDE cable, try that first before shelling out on a new HD.
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250w PSU with a Ath 2200 is shit. They do this on purpose I reckon to give a short PC life. These days 350W should be the minimum with 550w being nice
Cybermonkey
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well i have a 450w Antec PSU, and its excellent. Its actually reduced the running temps of my PC with its extra fan.

 
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