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Akeemking
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1st Jun 04 at 22:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I will post it as it was in the Portuguese forum...

quote:
Tive ontem a noite inteira a ver os Mestres a preparar o carro do Milénio passado... um Corsa 1.5 TD que ja deu muito que falar e agora ainda vai dar mais.
Meti aqui o antigo grafico e o grafico de ontem para comparação. Para quem consegue olhar para o grafico e ver o que la esta não é dificil de saber o que aconteceu. Ele so pisou a fundo por volta das 4000 rpm e quando acabou o teste a potencia dissipada como podem ver foi adulterada pk o Corsa estava so apoiado num rolo(cada roda claro) e perto das 4800 rpm desceu para os dois começando a contar bem... por isso o teste só é valido até as 4800 rpms. Mas não invalida a potencia as rodas ke é sempre verdadeira.
Por isso como podem comparar nos dois graficos houve um ganho de 33 Kw (45 cvs) nas rodas, tendo agora mais potencia nas rodas do que dantes tinha ao Motor.
Pelas contas feitas com as antigas potencias dissipadas mais certas concluimos ke o Corsa 1.5Td esta aproximadamente com 220 cvs.
Brevemente perto de si vamos ter o Corsa num Vamag tv em Lisboa ou Valongo. 8)

Tive a oportunidade de andar ao lado com o Becas e como ja estava a espera fikei mt impressionado e com a impressão ke se meto o Evo ao lado ia ser Aviado... mas pode ser so impressão. Ta mesmo mt forte. Impressionante.

Agora evitem confusões e vejam bem primeiro e depois comentem para não dizerem asneiras. Espero tb não ter dito nenhuma asneira ja que disto não percebo muito.

Um grande abraço.






[Edited on 01-06-2004 by Akeemking]

[Edited on 01-06-2004 by Akeemking]
myke
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I had yesterday the entire night to see the Masters to prepare the car of the last Milénio... a Corsa 1,5 TD that ja gave much that to speak and now still goes to give more. I put here the old grafico and the grafico of yesterday for comparison. For who it obtains to look at grafico it and to see what la this is not dificil to know what it happened. It so stepped on the deep one for return of the 4000 rpm and when it finished the test harnesses it wasted as they can see was adulterated pk the Corsa was so supported in a rolo(cada the 4800 wheel clearly) and close to rpm went down for the two starting to count... therefore the test well alone is validates until the 4800 rpms. But ke does not invalidate harnesses it the wheels is always true. Therefore as they can compare in the two graficos had a profit of 33 more Kw (45 cvs) in the wheels, having now harness in the dantes wheels of that it had to the Engine. For the accounts made with the old ones you harness wasted more certain we concluimos ke approximately the Corsa 1.5Td this with 220 cvs. Briefly close to itself we go to have the Corsa in a Vamag TV in Lisbon or Valongo. 8) I had the chance of walking to the side with the Robes and as ja was the wait fikei TM impressed and with the impression ke if I put the Evo to the side went To be prepared... but impression can be so. You same strong TM. Impressive. Now they prevent confusions and they see well first and later they comment not to say asneiras. I wait tb not to have said no asneira ja that of this I do not perceive very. A great one I hug.
SteveW
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i dont understand these damn graphs

what is the power from the Dyno Run ? in BHP ??
myke
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1bhp = 0.75kw

so 230bhp from 162bhp before hand
177bhp at the wheels
SteveW
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From a 1.5TD

jesus thats a lot
Bonzai
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max power at 5550 revs. i dont think mine even revs that far let alone boost at that rpm
Adam
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you need to upen up the max revs screw, standard they rev to 5100-5200
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by snowy
From a 1.5TD

jesus thats a lot


Didn't he drop a 2.0 LET in though?
Adam
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That's not his car

there are loads of seriously tuned TD's over the channel
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
That's not his car

there are loads of seriously tuned TD's over the channel


oh - cool... looks like u need to take a trip abroad adam and find out how theirs are so much quicker than yours?
Adam
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You've not seen mine run tho, I know it's nothing compared to your 1.2 of course
Akeemking
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This car has stupid crazy solutions...
and gess what... hehehehe its not "bug" free anymore!!!
Kris TD
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you got an engine spec and engine pics?
seems interesting
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
You've not seen mine run tho, I know it's nothing compared to your 1.2 of course


one day adam, one day...

I know you have nightmares about SXi Power mate.
corsa_tuning
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he's back...
dave17
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
You've not seen mine run tho, I know it's nothing compared to your 1.2 of course


one day adam, one day...

I know you have nightmares about SXi Power mate.



ive felt the wrath of SXI power
dave17
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LMAO jus read ur sig
corsa_tuning
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it breaks lots of gearboxes tough
Kris TD
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wat has it got done to the engine? must have some huge intercooler, turbo, uprated fuel pump, manifold, injectors, anymore info on it?
corsa_tuning
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it has the intake manifold from a 1.5D and where it should take the air filter it has the intercooler connection hose
it has an oil radiator, an intercooler from iveco van, hybrid turbo (maybe a T25), more pressure in the fuel pump, more pressure in the oil pump and some magic too
corsa_tuning
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btw here are some pics of the car, sweet
http://www.tuning.online.pt/tuningonline/projectos/corsabecas.htm
Kris TD
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interesting inlet, i may have too steal that idea.
seems a much better way than using the td manifold
James_DT
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How is the manifold from the 1.5D better than the 1.5TD one?
Kris TD
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any engine pics?
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by James_DT
How is the manifold from the 1.5D better than the 1.5TD one?


different layout, meens you have to have teh cone filter striaght onto the turbo, and run the intercooler from the turbo too where the inlet would be on the 1.5d.
cant do it if you have pas or abs though cos there is nowhere to put the filter otherwise.
plus need an intercooler to do it.
right, thats me sold on that idea

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