mk4_astra
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that monaro is lush, but 380 bhp from a 5.7l v8 isnt a great deal considering bmw get 330bhp from a 3.2l v6,doesnt the monaro have bags of tourque though?
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Tom
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BMW 3.2 Straight 6 
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paul_spurrell
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the 5.7 is all about torque.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_astra
that monaro is lush, but 380 bhp from a 5.7l v8 isnt a great deal considering bmw get 330bhp from a 3.2l v6,doesnt the monaro have bags of tourque though?
the 5.7L engine can be produced in various power puts. also it'a very old design. the engien also don;t need to use revs to produce power either.
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paul_spurrell
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for example this 5.7 produces 430bhp
http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac350cidls1y.asp
[Edited on 06-05-2004 by paul_spurrell]
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vibrio
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PMSL
Package includes:
• Engine removal, inspection and disassembly
• CNC porting & polishing of cylinder heads
• LPE valve springs and lightweight valve spring retainers
• Stainless steel intake/exhaust valves
• Three angle valve job, set correct spring tensions & heights
• Custom designed LPE hydraulic roller camshaft
• Professional installation, testing and tuning
• Stainless steel exhaust by Corsa Performance
• Donaldson washable air inlet system
• Chassis dyno testing after installation
• LPE’s 2 year / 24,000 mile warranty
[Edited on 06-05-2004 by vibrio]
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paul_spurrell
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to be honest i didnt read it lol
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sxi boy
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Originally posted by Ojc
Vauxhall are on to a winner with this.
Ford are falling behind with there warm hatches: focus RS? fiesta RS?
Honda, well they make lawn mowers - CTR, DC5 ITR, S2000, NSX
Citroen - 2CV ok i'll give u that one
Peugeot - Plastic panels  that one aswell
Renault - French - 182 hailed as the best hot hatch ever, clio v6, megane 225
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Daimo B
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Vauxhall - VX 220 na and turbo, Astra GSi, Astra Convertable Turbo, Veccy 3.2 V6, Signum 2.0 turbo, Veccy 1.9 tdi, Astra Extreme
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sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Vauxhall - VX 220 na and turbo, - agreed
Astra GSi - beaten in many group tests by likes of CTR, leon cupra R,
Astra Convertable Turbo - ITR and a lot of change in your pocket
Veccy 3.2 V6 - motorway cruises - where's the fun in that?
Signum 2.0 turbo - see above
Veccy 1.9 tdi - dirty derv
Astra Extreme
im not totally anti vauxhall, i am currently trying to convince my dad to buy a vx220 turbo over an elise, but i feel that there are better performance cars out there than vauxhall's hot hatch efforts
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Daimo B
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There are better cars out yeah.
Hard pushed to beat a VX220T for what its meant for though. MUCH better than the Elise as a standard model (i'd say better than these 190 models as well, with scope for improvment).
Wait for the VXR Version.
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Cybermonkey
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I do think vauxhall are tripping themselves up when it comes to the corsa. A gsi variant is such an obvious way to go, but where the hell is it?? a new facelift model as been released already. Perhaps its being planted into the next corsa facelift and to be labelled up as a VXR model too? who knows
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no point building a car if it ain't going to compete in terms of price and speed. would need to be around 13k I recon cause go upto 15k you get the clio, CTR which are going to be bigger and faster with more power. the corsa 1.8sri is competing with the likes of the Ibiza FR, punto HGT, C2 GT etc. and it does seem a good buy considering the group 9 insurnace on it
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Cybermonkey
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and it is a good nippy car. Looks very nice with irmscher bits and that darkish blue colour like goldpenguins. If they were to release a VXR/GSi version, it would have to be pretty hot stuff to compare with the new breed of hot hatches like the 182, soon to be announced C2 VTS and others in the pipeline.
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Daimo B
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Corsa GSi wont come out until the Corsa D shows its face. For now the 1.8 model is the quickest.
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Foz
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That is fantastic
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Tom
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Tis sad, that opc that was out in germany needs to be with us in GB now 
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Ojc
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It will be a sad day when they do away with the GSi badge 
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Cybermonkey
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too true crow-boy
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kerzo
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some amount of silage spewed in this thread!
let me make a couple of points:
antscorsa - just give over or else make some sense
182, best hot hatch ever?? nah i dont think so  it will never compete with 205 gti's
corsa gsi? as said would have to be cheap as always and lets face it, never gonna match up to french hot hatches for speed.
vxr astra front wheel drive?? as i stated before in another thread why oh why did they not do a 4wd or rwd for this?
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Cybermonkey
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kerzo, the astra H GSi is NOT going to be the range topper. Vauxhall are looking at a twin turbo diesel and petrol units, that could quite possibly come in 4WD form.
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Cybermonkey
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oh and the 182 is a stonking car, but i wouldnt go as far as saying best hot hatch ever, i would call it best hot hatch since the original clio williams.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by kerzo
some amount of silage spewed in this thread!
let me make a couple of points:
antscorsa - just give over or else make some sense
182, best hot hatch ever?? nah i dont think so it will never compete with 205 gti's
corsa gsi? as said would have to be cheap as always and lets face it, never gonna match up to french hot hatches for speed.
vxr astra front wheel drive?? as i stated before in another thread why oh why did they not do a 4wd or rwd for this?
your a fool if you believe that
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bradfincham
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the monaro is out there alreayd in oz!
Its a great looking car and is basically a 3 door holden HSV! the sound these things make is incredible. A friend out here in oz has a holden UTE - pickup with the 3.5 v8 basically a 350 chevvy lump in a pickup with buckets and air con and full bodykit! This is his work horse! They retail at $40,000 and is hell of a car for the cash!
Also is the new sleek looking honda integre type r out back home??
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bradfincham
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sorry i stand corrected his ute actually has the 5.7 ltr v8 with 245 kw of power and looks like this:
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