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AdiSRI
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Alpine CDA-9830R



50W x 4 High Power Amplifier
3 Pre Outs
4V High Voltage Pre Out
Bass Engine Plus
3-Position HP/LP Digital Crossover
4ch Adjustable Digital Time Correction
4 Band Parametric EQ
Factory Preset EQ
Media Xpander (MX)
Disc Title Memory (18 titles / 8 letters)
CD Text Display and Scroll
Regulated 1-bit DAC
MP3 Text Information Display (ID3 Tag)
Zero Data Mute (0 bit Mute)
CD-R / CD-RW Compatibility
MP3/WMA Decoder/Playback
Play List (MP3/WMA)
MP3 / CD Changer Control
14 Segment Black Mask Display
Dual Illumination (for Preset buttons)
MaxTune PRO Tuner
Rotary Encoder Volume Control
Remote Control Ready
Black Out
i-Personalize
Swing Face
ISO Connector Ready
OEM Steering Remote Control Ready
Vehicle Display Interface
Versatile Ai Link
MobileHub Link
MM Driver Compatible

Focal PolyGlass 165 V2 Components



JBL P180.2



2/1 channel.
Variable xover.
Bass EQ.
2 x 90w RMS/720w peak

JBL A1201GTI



Mono subwoofer amplifier.
Digital technology.
24dB/oct LP xover.
Remote level control and display.
1 ohm stable.
1200w RMS at 2 ohms.
2400w peak

Resonant Extreme XXX 15 V3



New 2004 facelift model
Designed to be the ultimate in sound quality. The XXX series utilizes the patented XBl^2 motor technology for extreme linearity and audio reproduction. With a ruler flat BL curve, the drivers specs remain constant over extreme excursions unlike other motor types. The XXX series is the ultimate in sonic performance and output at any price. XBL^2 is licensed technology of Adire Audio.

Features;

Dual 2 Ohm
Kraft pulp cone with carbon fibers in the matrix
Rubatek foam surround
Cast aluminium basket
Tork-Tite terminal
8layer flatwound aluminium voice coil
FEA optimized motor structure
XBl^2 motor topology (licensed technology of Adire Audio)
Double stack magnets
Dual Progressive spiders
Wrap around rubber gasket
langey
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so you recon with this set up and properly sound deadend, i'll be expecting 130dB?

you got the links to the sites aswell matey just so i can link to them when i need to buy
AdiSRI
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Alpine CDA-9830R

http://www.mcs-direct.co.uk/acatalog/MCS_DIRECT_MP3_Players_103.html


Focal PolyGlass 165 V2 Components

http://www.caraudiodiscount.com/acatalog/focal_polyglass_v2_component.html


JBL P180.2/JBL A1201GTI

http://www.mcs-direct.co.uk/acatalog/MCS_DIRECT_Amplifiers_81.html


Resonant Extreme XXX 15 V3

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=2969
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Focal PolyGlass 165 V2 Components niceeee


pew pew pew pewwwww
AdiSRI
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Its all nice, if he sticks to wat i've said he will have a TOP system here
langey
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what wiring is needed??

AdiSRI
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2 gauge be best for you matey
R Lee
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the full amp wiring kit. lots of it probably
langey
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right well i'll sort the wiring out closer to the time,

cant wait for it to go on order, and then that moment when all the hard graft has been finished and i power it up for the 1st time and just get purly blown away by it
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no run it low at first, bed it all in b4 u blast it.
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how long will that take and how will in know??

lasat time i cudnt wait lol and just blaseted it, but it was a foam surrond not rubber
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a few good hours of modderate playing mate.

I no its so tempting to hammer u system to hear it soon as u put it in but wil do none of it any good
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
how long will that take and how will in know??

lasat time i cudnt wait lol and just blaseted it, but it was a foam surrond not rubber

people say atleast 2 weeks...although austin(richie) said he had an ipod with loads of tunes, wacked the car in a garage with a air feed for the exhaust, left the car running and left the tune playing for hours and hours.

Or someone else said, that if you gave the sub a certain sinewave frequency for a few hours, it will do the same as bedding it in for the 2 weeks etc etc

Although personally, i would leave it 2 week at low volume, then slowly increase over the next month or so. Thats what my mate did, and he has no probs was so ever and his JLs sound sweet as
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so you dsay 2 weeks, you dont mean 2weeks solid of playing tunes??

how many hours ruffly, and what is low volume?? gains and that turned down, and volume on about 10-15 of 35
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27th Apr 04 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no1 cud wait 2 weeks cud they, lol.
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well i only drive to and from work, its about 20-30mins in the car, so that would be 40-60mins running in a day
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
well i only drive to and from work, its about 20-30mins in the car, so that would be 40-60mins running in a day

no, you would want a few (2-4hrs) good hours everyday atleast for 2weeks .
no not 2 weeks solid would be alittle overkill

As for volume, if it only goes up to 35, then i would say 10 max, then ease it slowly after that for the next few weeks (from the initial 2 weeks). And yes, turn all gains down etc

although, im sure adi/richie will be more clued up with running in periods, but thats what i bneen told/heard before and thats how a few mates have done it and theres no problems what so ever
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40-60 mins a day wud be fine, LOW vloume for 2 weeks then work it up over the next 4 or so as said. That way you have a good sub that will last.
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so turn he gains down on both amps?? and volume no more than 10 for 2 weeksand i'll evan go for a drive and park up at maccys with the system on low :O

then 4 weeks after that put the volume up 2points every few days??

seems a bit like breaking a virgin in. 1 finger, then 2, then 3, the cock gets rammed in and split her.
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
so turn he gains down on both amps?? and volume no more than 10 for 2 weeksand i'll evan go for a drive and park up at maccys with the system on low :O

then 4 weeks after that put the volume up 2points every few days??

seems a bit like breaking a virgin in. 1 finger, then 2, then 3, the cock gets rammed in and split her.

HAHAHAHA
yes you need to take it little by little, working it up and easing everything to help prevent splittage...once its settled and its been easied enough, then push it a few notches every so often....

yea basically, once you've gone passed the 2 weeks, increase it a notch everyday or other day, but keeping the system all flat (so no added bass or treble on the HU and the gains down). Once its been going for about 6 weeks, you can start to push it all abit mate, so get it setup properly (so gains with a scope etc)...best bet take it to your local ICE place and get them to set it all up, they have the equipment as well
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27th Apr 04 at 20:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

local ice dealers chagre well loads for anything.

what do you mean gains with a scoope?
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
local ice dealers chagre well loads for anything.

what do you mean gains with a scoope?

there was a setup guide sumwhere on CS showing how to set up amps etc
But a scope, basically something that shows you the wave shape/form....or the real name, oscilloscope. A decent-ish one will set you back a few hundred quid (£350 is about the cheapest ive seen on maplin.co.uk) but can be anything up to a grand and abit. So i would take it into a ICE shop and get them to do it, because it will be cheaper than buying the gear yourself. Although i suppose you could hire the equipment, although havnt got a clue where from (not the kinda thing you hire out).

edit: HERE is one that trotty did, which you can do by ear, but obviously it will only be as accurate as your ears etc. But using a scope follows the similar outline, but you dont have the speaker plugged in and you using the scope on the RCA outputs and using the wave-form (sine wave) as reference to whether its distorting or not

[Edited on 27-04-2004 by VisibleMan]
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but why do i need to turn the gains up with that??

on my last system i just did it myself and put them up just belove full whack
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
but why do i need to turn the gains up with that??

on my last system i just did it myself and put them up just belove full whack

if ya wack your gains up, and you turn your system up it will cause distortion...which in turn fooks up the coils/ or blows the speakers to shit. And personally, if i was spending 2 grand on a system, then i would get it setup properly, to make it will stay in perfect working order for a few years etc

Like i said, after 6 wekks or so, do it the trotty's method...but it does mean wearing ear protectors if you have a loud system. Or see if you can borrow a scope from someone/hire one etc and do it that way (which will be more accurate).
When you have set it up once, have a listen, play a few CDs, then piss about with the EQs (not the bass obviously and make sure the comps have a few Hz knocked off in the 100 and below range) then wack the scope up again to check that it isnt distorting at high volumes etc. SOLVED

like i said, just take it into your local ICE and see how much they will charge to set it all up etc Plus if they fook it up, then they have to pay for it etc etc

try THIS list of sites that hire that type of equipment and see how much it would cost to do it yourself. Although it will take some time to understand wave-forms and how to set it up, but i cant see it taking longer than a weekend etc

[Edited on 27-04-2004 by VisibleMan]
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so them scoppes u can see the distortion on them??

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