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MikeH
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Gonna have to take my car to vauxhall tomorrow for a diagnostic test
Siberia
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yesh the most sickening 40 quid you'll send

[Edited on 22-03-2004 by Siberia]
BabyBlade
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Red_SXi
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Adam-D
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and will they find the problem?
no
luca2020
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol do it ur self for nothing, do the paper clip test
Drew
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quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
lol do it ur self for nothing, do the paper clip test


wot i was gunna say
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
yesh the most sickening 40 quid you'll send

[Edited on 22-03-2004 by Siberia]


not sickening when you think the tech 2 costs 7000 and every tis update disc is about 250. paperclip test is ok, but u have no snapshot, no actuator test, no data display etc.........
luca2020
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but all hes doing is a tec2 diagnostic test, u can find the same fault using the paper clip test and save ur self 40

u saying ud rather spend 40 than find a paper clip
MikeH
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can't do paperclip test on my car to the best of my knowledge i'm affraid.
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
but all hes doing is a tec2 diagnostic test, u can find the same fault using the paper clip test and save ur self 40

u saying ud rather spend 40 than find a paper clip


no but if u do a paperclip test and it says 02 sensor, it can be air flow meter. if u do a paperclip test and it says mass air flow sensor u cant check to see if that is faulting.plus a paperclip test reads last trouble code only. what if more than one? what if u wanted check the parameters of particular sensor etc?
Wolf In Welsh Clothing
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22nd Mar 04 at 20:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just bribe a mechanic with a tenner!
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Wolf In Welsh Clothing
Just bribe a mechanic with a tenner!


id take a tenner from ya!!
MikeH
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22nd Mar 04 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A while back i looked at the instructions for the paperclip test and my diag plug pins were different.

Are there any other methods?

I have a 1999 1.2 16v (thing its a motronic 1.5.5 ecu)
luca2020
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
but all hes doing is a tec2 diagnostic test, u can find the same fault using the paper clip test and save ur self 40

u saying ud rather spend 40 than find a paper clip


no but if u do a paperclip test and it says 02 sensor, it can be air flow meter. if u do a paperclip test and it says mass air flow sensor u cant check to see if that is faulting.plus a paperclip test reads last trouble code only. what if more than one? what if u wanted check the parameters of particular sensor etc?


no it dont, it lists all faults currently in the ecu, well thats what mine showed me, then took it to a machanic mate with a replica tec2 and it came up with the excatly the same reults as i did
-Aliba-
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22nd Mar 04 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mike, to the best of my knowledge. It simply wont work on yours

Same as mines.... 1.0 12V tho.
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
but all hes doing is a tec2 diagnostic test, u can find the same fault using the paper clip test and save ur self 40

u saying ud rather spend 40 than find a paper clip


no but if u do a paperclip test and it says 02 sensor, it can be air flow meter. if u do a paperclip test and it says mass air flow sensor u cant check to see if that is faulting.plus a paperclip test reads last trouble code only. what if more than one? what if u wanted check the parameters of particular sensor etc?


no it dont, it lists all faults currently in the ecu, well thats what mine showed me, then took it to a machanic mate with a replica tec2 and it came up with the excatly the same reults as i did


so does your paperclip tell u what the flow ratio is of your mass air flow sensor? can your paperclip cross referance two faults and see if occured at same time? can paperclip erase diagnostic trouble codes? and can paper clip perform stepper tests on sensors etc???
BabyBlade
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22nd Mar 04 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
so does your paperclip tell u what the flow ratio is of your mass air flow sensor? can your paperclip cross referance two faults and see if occured at same time? can paperclip erase diagnostic trouble codes? and can paper clip perform stepper tests on sensors etc???


Nope, it does hold multiple numbers of pages together tho which can also be handy
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Sethion33
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
so does your paperclip tell u what the flow ratio is of your mass air flow sensor? can your paperclip cross referance two faults and see if occured at same time? can paperclip erase diagnostic trouble codes? and can paper clip perform stepper tests on sensors etc???


Nope, it does hold multiple numbers of pages together tho which can also be handy


much credit to you. tech 2 cannot do that!!!!
MikeH
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23rd Mar 04 at 12:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Going at 1pm for the diag test.

Are they gonna take one look at the BFO and exhaust and just say... "thats causing it" ?

I know for a fact it isn;t as it did it when it was stndard.
broster
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yeah my sis has a pug 206 new and it kept telling her oil was low but it wasnt, took it to pug and they said it was because of an after market radio, her being a girl was gunna take it out and go standard, i went down and had a word and suggested that it was a water leak on electrics, and what was it? water leak. just goes to show they will be happy to take ur money and fob u off, dunno if vauxhall are like that too?
MikeH
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23rd Mar 04 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Pfff that really was crap mate.
thekemp
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take it to a back street garage most of them have code readers, my mate has one of the new snap-on handheld readers its really smart as you can diagnose the care while your driving it he charges 20
MikeH
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23rd Mar 04 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Air mass flowmeter..... they seem ok to replace it on my network Q (which expires in 7 days) but i'm gonan remove the BFO cone before taking it back.

And no, the induction kit didn;t cause this, did it before i fitted one.
LScorsa
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Ive got mine booked in on thurs im just hoping that they can find what it is that keeps making it cut out!

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