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Author Just Fitted 2litre 16v spec brakes,wat a Nightmare!!!!
MoNkEy MaGiC
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   11th Mar 04 at 19:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

soon as i got out of garage about 1 mile away heard a big bang from left of car while moving slowly in traffic!!!!
turned out one of the two bolts that held the left caliper cracked or came of!! and caused the brake to LOCK!!
GOOD thing i was only doing about 5mph!! imagine i was on motor way doing 70mph!!!!!!

anway, im shite scared now while driving incase happens again, the garage man said my old bolt was knackered n so cracked, and that it is very rare for the caliper bolt to brake and that i shudnt worry about it now!
is this true????

also, ive done 30miles since had them fitted and the braking power isnt "amazing" compared to original brakes,but then again ive been taking it easy and not bombing it around, do i have to give it time for the pads and discs to settle in???
also had new rocker cover gasket, cam belt,cam belt-pulley and alternator belt fited to!

cheers

[Edited on 11-03-2004 by MoNkEy MaGiC]
James@CCC
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11th Mar 04 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u should always have it checked by a proper mechanic before u drove around, u were lucky u were only doing 5 mph.

i thinik u can imporve the brakes if u upgrade to braided lines
and-m
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11th Mar 04 at 19:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You shouldve renewed the old bolts regardless.
Adam-D
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11th Mar 04 at 19:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yup you have to use new caliper bolts every time you disturb them
and yes they have to bed in for bout 200 miles
MoNkEy MaGiC
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11th Mar 04 at 19:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it was a whole new brake kit as well, but didnt come with any new bolts u see!

i mite get new bolts put in, to be on safe side and have peace of mind too!

ok so the true braking power wont be felt till ive done about 200miles!!

[Edited on 11-03-2004 by MoNkEy MaGiC]
Adam-D
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11th Mar 04 at 19:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

correct the bolts are less than £10
i have the price somwhere but cant be arse searching
Daimo B
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11th Mar 04 at 19:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
yup you have to use new caliper bolts every time you disturb them
and yes they have to bed in for bout 200 miles


Really, im fucked then, i've never changed them once and my brakes have been off a faaaiiiiiir few times

I split through a braided hose as well, also i was only doing about 5mph. Just pulled out Lee Mitchells drive, put my foot on the brake and pop, blew a hole straight thru it Doh.!
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 20:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

a new hose? fark!

urm were do ya get new bolts? vaux?

V6 brakes coming next week dont want anythign falling off.



[Edited on 11-03-2004 by Siberia]

[Edited on 11-03-2004 by Siberia]
Daimo B
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11th Mar 04 at 20:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Make sure the bleed nipples at the top when fitting the calipers. Easy swap. Old kit off, new kit on.

Hose split because teh calipers were upside down and hose was rubbing on inside of wheel. I wasn't to know, there wasn't anyone really who had them 3 years ago on a corsa. Simple mistake as they fit fine the other way bar the hose being tight at full lock.
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 20:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sure we all learn form mistakes i when through 3 speedo cables before i fgured out i was fitting them wrong

exppesive lesson at €30 a pop.
Adam-D
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11th Mar 04 at 20:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how did u fit a speedo cable wrong?
3CorsaMeal
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11th Mar 04 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wrapping round the axle could be one way
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

urm well the one that was in the car was going anyways so when i changed the gearbox and put that one back on it went after a week.


sooo..... then i got a new one and didnt thighten it on the gearbox properly so the part that spins was at an angle thus it snap after an hr

so then third one is the one in the car and i quidrupley check this one

i know i know im a ejit but i'm sure you have all done silly things
Adam-D
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11th Mar 04 at 21:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no i refitted mine today
and just wanted to know how u bust yours so i didnt do it

happy to say none of that ive done
so i should be ok
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 21:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just make sure u dont just hand tighten it get a pliers and thight the fcuker good and proper

the only other thing is the gear linkage i presume u own a haynes?
Adam-D
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11th Mar 04 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

gear linkage isnt connected yet along with half the engine
i do own a haynes. ive only used it for torque settings

yup i tightened it with pliers
MoNkEy MaGiC
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11th Mar 04 at 22:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

weres best place to get the set of 4 bolts for the calipers then?? vauxhall? how much?

also, how much would vaux charge for 4 locking bolts for the alloys, not the security ones just the normal bolts??
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 22:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when i was putting in my gearbox i had me burd in the car holding the gearstick in the middleish and me under the car trying to guess were the gear selector should. there for a farking hour fluting around with it shouting at the misus and all (it WAS all her fault )

decided to read the haynes and follow there proceedure

had it done in 5 mins that way.
Kris TD
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11th Mar 04 at 22:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get the bolts from vauxhall, will be about 2 quid each max.

those 2l brakes are very good once the pads have worn in.
Siberia
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11th Mar 04 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are the V6 ones better again?
MoNkEy MaGiC
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11th Mar 04 at 23:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think the v6 brake kits have more breaking power coz of bigger discs and calipers.

have noticed my 2lt ones get "slightly" better in the last 30miles but i havnt really tested them properly,want to wear them down evenly, dont want no chuncks out of pads or disc, so gonna wait 200miles til test them properly

so £2 each max for the bolts, thats not bad,

is that jus the caliper bolts or both caliper and alloy bolts?

[Edited on 11-03-2004 by MoNkEy MaGiC]
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12th Mar 04 at 00:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Changing the bolts is recommended but not entirely necessary, i put some 16v calipers on about a year back, then bout 6 months ago i took them off to spray them up, put the original bolts back on, but you gotta clean out the old Locktite and apply a fresh coat ont eh end of the bolt. use a torque wrench to make sure your doing them up tight enough.
MoNkEy MaGiC
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12th Mar 04 at 00:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah i guess it just depends how old the bolts are on the calipers,

mine must of been well old and knackered, so if one broke then the others have good chance of breaking too init, so i better get them done
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12th Mar 04 at 08:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

be very careful with your new brakes on. Putting them under too much pressure too soon can cause them to become real crap after a couple of months, and you will have to replace the discs again.
MoNkEy MaGiC
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12th Mar 04 at 12:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah im gonna brake nice n easy for next 200miles to wear them in nicely

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