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Author 1.2 8v VS 1.5 Diesel
Valleyscorsa
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8th Dec 03 at 12:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

who would win between 0-50, my 1.2's got 16's lowered 40mm all round, drilled airbox with panel filter and cold air feed, sebring backbox and centre pipe, the derv's standard except got cav 15's with huge tyres!!! roughly same age and mileage, surely the petrol would be ahead after 1st and 2nd but what then, will derv power kick in????
Kris TD
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8th Dec 03 at 13:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

45 bhp vs 50 bhp. neither mate they are both as slow as each other.
Valleyscorsa
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8th Dec 03 at 13:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I didnt think there was much in it, my friends got one and we havent raced yet but i didnt think there was much in it, what could i do to try and make that extra 5 bhp up, dont wanna decat tho
Kris TD
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8th Dec 03 at 13:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

loose weight from the car !!!!
IntaCepta
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8th Dec 03 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the car overtaking the both of u!

think the one with 15" alloys might just nick it,
IntaCepta
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8th Dec 03 at 13:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or put 13" steelies on
casper_ac
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8th Dec 03 at 17:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

let the other blokes tyres down
Makarus
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8th Dec 03 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The petrol should nip it, I have raced a 1.5d and beat it by a fair margin but this wasn't in a straight line, it was round a few bends.

The 16's with low profiles would probably have a smaller rolling diameter than the 15's with big tyres.

One thing I never get on here is everyone just insists on pointing out 1.2's, 1.0 12v's etc are slow, most people know this, owners know this because they drive them. Not everyone can afford to have 1.6 16v staight away for christs sake.

No point trying to get more power out the car mate, I have a 1.2 8v, got stainless system, induction kit and thats it engine wise, no point spending money on that engine. I have beat bigger engined cars in my car and it aint because of engine mods, its because I know the car well and I know what it can do, get to know how your car drives and use it to your advantage.

And after all if he does beat you at least you aint driving an oil burner.
Valleyscorsa
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8th Dec 03 at 18:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hey guys, just came back from the industrial estate, and guess what, I BEAT HIM!!!! Did him in first got to second and he was gaining but then he crunched in 3rd, HA HA,
BabyBlade
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8th Dec 03 at 18:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Makarus
The petrol should nip it, I have raced a 1.5d and beat it by a fair margin but this wasn't in a straight line, it was round a few bends.

The 16's with low profiles would probably have a smaller rolling diameter than the 15's with big tyres.

One thing I never get on here is everyone just insists on pointing out 1.2's, 1.0 12v's etc are slow, most people know this, owners know this because they drive them. Not everyone can afford to have 1.6 16v staight away for christs sake.

No point trying to get more power out the car mate, I have a 1.2 8v, got stainless system, induction kit and thats it engine wise, no point spending money on that engine. I have beat bigger engined cars in my car and it aint because of engine mods, its because I know the car well and I know what it can do, get to know how your car drives and use it to your advantage.

And after all if he does beat you at least you aint driving an oil burner.


It is in my opinion that if someone can afford to insure the 1.2 8v they could afford to insure the 1.4 8v sri
MattyB
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8th Dec 03 at 19:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

For the first year i had my corsa 1.2 8v, it was 1200 tpft under my dad's name. A 1.4 8v SPI was 1500. Cant imagine what a MPi wud have been.
Makarus
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8th Dec 03 at 19:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Then in your opinion you are wrong.

1.2 8v group 2 insurance, 1.4 sri group 6 insurance, you do the math. I was paying 1800 for my first year on my 1.2 8v, fully comp in my own name, now could you imagine how much it would cost for me to insure a sri?? Far too much is the answer.
fax2004
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8th Dec 03 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im 19, have 0 no claims, its my first car, and im a motor technician. My insurance on a 1.4 8v SRi is 720
Kris TD
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8th Dec 03 at 19:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

turn the fuelling up on the diesel and it will be quicker.
blackula
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8th Dec 03 at 22:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The lower the power of the car the more weight makes a difference, so if you take the spare wheel out of a 1.0 12v and the jack and save 25kg with a few other bits and bobs you;d notice. On a 1.4 your probably wouldn't.

I had this article where they quarter miled a 1.0 Diahatsu and gradually took weight off and added it and it made a difference, even small amounts of weight.
IntaCepta
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8th Dec 03 at 23:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by fax2004
Im 19, have 0 no claims, its my first car, and im a motor technician. My insurance on a 1.4 8v SRi is 720


how did u get a quote so cheap?
does ur mom/dad have full NCBs?
Dinokid
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9th Dec 03 at 00:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
turn the fuelling up on the diesel and it will be quicker.

how do u do that on a NA diesel?
TOMAS
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9th Dec 03 at 00:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My question is why does anyone try and race in their 1.2's etc? Im running a 1.2 16V, its slow but its good enough to 'drive' daily and get you around. I'd never even mention 'Vs' until we are talking 1.6's and above... Just my oppinion
Valleyscorsa
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^^^^ Fair enough comment, but why do people who are crap at footbll still play it? Cos its good fun, i dont go tearing round like some knob head trying to beat everyone off the lights, me and my friend just wanted to know who had the quicker car, so we went to a nice abondoned industrial estate by us where we wernt causing any danger and had a go down the straight, its like a competition, we always argue whos got the nicest car and stuff so thats why we did it, trust me i know how slow my car is, iv got to live with it

[Edited on 09-12-2003 by Valleyscorsa]
Kris TD
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9th Dec 03 at 14:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dinokid
quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
turn the fuelling up on the diesel and it will be quicker.

how do u do that on a NA diesel?


the same way you turn the fuelling up on a td, turn the max fuel screw about 1/3 a turn in. it will smoke, but it will release some more power. an induction kit is a good idea if you do this too.

 
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