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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Corsa GSi
Daimo ur maths is shit


I added a zero on the damn calculator to £1733316

Dammit Good job im not an accountant.

Whats wrong with your laptop again?
Donna Corsa GSi


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Yeah yeah excuses excuses

What laptop
Scott
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not everyone turns this over , but thin of it the average set of wheels are now 1k a bodykit 1k etc

i love people who comment on things , they dont knwo about bigger companies like RTEC etc easily turn over 50k plus a week
Donna Corsa GSi


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I think im in just a good a position to comment then what you are

Turnover means bugger all, its net profit thats important.
Ty_Harris
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Scott
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hence why i said some people , i know u used to / still do PVD accounts

why u in better postion , i run my own compnay and do my own accounts
M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom D
@ 100k being fuck all when it's to do with car modding


whats so funny?

how much do u think a years advertising costs?
Scott
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a very reputable compnay i deal with and know the owner very well has advertising costs of 52k per month.
Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott
hence why i said some people , i know u used to / still do PVD accounts

why u in better postion , i run my own compnay and do my own accounts


Think Donna does the accounts for about 50 companies
AS you can tell, i dont do any,

i'll stick to PC's.
antscorsa
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is jets new astra actaully driveable cos b shame if u coulnt see it on the road, got such nice road presence, like scott sed he had definetly stepped up the level of modding

[Edited on 01-12-2003 by antscorsa]
Donna Corsa GSi


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Because im a management accountant and deal with quite a few companies in the modified car industry. Ive also spoken to Jamie a couple of times on the growth of his company.

And I never said I was in a better position I said as good as a position.

Ive done PVD's book keeping for the last 3 years and their accounts for the last 2 years.

A well branded company doesn't need to spend excessive amounts on advertising once it is well established.
M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott
a very reputable compnay i deal with and know the owner very well has advertising costs of 52k per month.


agreed, and look what they have to show (tangible wise)

a 100k astra will get.....

6/7 page mag feature AND front cover
several smaller pics throught the year in all sorts of mags
100s of pics of it all over the internet
several pages of discussions like this
sponsorships for wheels,ICE, other bits and improve inter-company relations
pictures of the car in adverts for the companies who suplied wheels, ice etc
possible feature on free DVDs/posters etc with mags
several awards all over the world for best car/ice etc
possible 4/5/6 page features in foreign mags
attracting huge crouds at 20 or so events across the country per year
this will brobs last for 2 years at the speed of the modded car industry these days

now, go and price me up other ways of advertising this company to drum up the same amount of publicity as above and i BET you any money is miles more then 100k, find me the privce of a 1/2 page add in just 1 issue of MAX, REVS etc and u'll see exactly what im on about

PLUS he has one hell of a car at the end of it to sell/keep woth 20k or so

[Edited on 01-12-2003 by M2RV H]
Scott
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i read it wrong when u said u were in better position.

if you do for a number of companies you shoudl know the sales of a decenly sized compnay are very very high.
Donna Corsa GSi


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50 companies I wish loads more then that Plus im accounts manager for a company with a multi-million pound turnover.
antscorsa
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MARV got a good point, the car is gona b in very magazine. CARISMA must b in a god position cos they never advertise but every1 knows and uses them when spending big bucks on there own car.
Donna Corsa GSi


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Yup I do know that their turnovers are very high I also know that if they are only offering a product their net profit is shit.
Scott
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dont matter who you are accountant for all im saying is , if you work in the modded car industry or work for them in the way you do, you will know what the sales are like . you cant buy a set of 18's below 800 quid these days
M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Corsa GSi
A well branded company doesn't need to spend excessive amounts on advertising once it is well established.


hummm i would only 50% agree with you here donna under these circumstances

the industry is ever changing, people trying to out-do others, and unless u prove that you ARE the best then people will go elsewhere, especially the teenage/young 20s croud who will go whereever they see advertised by OTT cars on the front cover of max lol
Scott
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ive said enough

i know wot we do , i know wot other people do , im happy so are they.
M2RTY
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but then again, if you produce feature worthy customers cars, the advertising happens on its own by getting these cars mag featured
Donna Corsa GSi


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Oh yeah I agree with you there but advertising should decrease over years when you start to realise where you're getting the majority of your business from. Then you can start to cut back on advertising where you're not getting enough sales for your costs.
Donna Corsa GSi


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Yeah but if you sale a set of 18's for £800 you only gross profit about 30-35% on that and then you've got to pay all your overheads too. Thats why im saying turnover means shit when you're selling a product its gross/net profit you want to look at.
M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Corsa GSi
Oh yeah I agree with you there but advertising should decrease over years when you start to realise where you're getting the majority of your business from. Then you can start to cut back on advertising where you're not getting enough sales for your costs.


i love the few people on here who actually talk sense and can back up what they say
M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Corsa GSi
Yeah but if you sale a set of 18's for £800 you only gross profit about 30-35% on that and then you've got to pay all your overheads too. Thats why im saying turnover means shit when you're selling a product its gross/net profit you want to look at.


yup, you could have $10m turnover and not make a penny profit, or even a loss
Scott
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of course profit is important

i can gaurnetee u 35% of £800 is more tahn some peoples wages on here each week. how many rims u reckon average sized compnaies sell a wekk ? 40 -50 ?

id say so

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