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SetoN!
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10th Apr 05 at 18:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I recently went to a local garage to ask for a quote on colour coding the front and rear arches and the partation between my front/rear bumpers and boot/bonet. Now he said because it was a textured plastic the paint would just flake off after a few months? Is this true? isnt their a way to sand them down or somthing?

Richie B
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10th Apr 05 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol, it can be done, i dont know exactly what you have to do, but i am going to do it myself at some point before i get a respray. it will involve rubbing them down
Gregor
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10th Apr 05 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They just need rubbed down until the "orange peel" effect is gone . Once thats done , primer , paint , laquer .

You could attempt it yourself before you put it into the bodyshop
SetoN!
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10th Apr 05 at 19:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by escortgti.com
They just need rubbed down until the "orange peel" effect is gone . Once thats done , primer , paint , laquer .

You could attempt it yourself before you put it into the bodyshop


with what sand paper? (sorry i know dumb questions but im still new to this sort of thing)

thx for tips tho!
Richie B
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10th Apr 05 at 19:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah sand paper (might be a certain type needed though that i dont know), you might as well try it, its not like you can spoil it, the texture needs to come off either way
R Lee
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10th Apr 05 at 19:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the guy at your local garage obviously hasn't a clue.

you'd be better off finding another garage that can handle the task.

don't bother doing it yourself, takes ages.
Gregor
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Basically , if you dont already have the sand paper I reccomend buying a "Project Pack" from halfords , which gives you a couple of sheets of each grade of sandpaper you require for the job .

Rub the parts down , starting with the roughest grade untill you get to the stage where the orange peel effect has gone .

At this point the parts should be smooth , but not glass smooth , as your primer needs to have something to key to .

HTH

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blue_lew
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10th Apr 05 at 20:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i got told that it can be painted on but will still have this orange peel effect afterwards, just in arden blue. lazy bodyshop??
sigibbons
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10th Apr 05 at 20:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes! Got to another. It takes a whie to do but easily can be done.
blue_lew
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cheers, i no the geezer as well!
James@CCC
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11th Apr 05 at 21:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

start with 80 grit and work to 400 or 600 ish

then it just needs plastic primer and it will be perfect. then just normal paint/lacquer
blue_lew
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11th Apr 05 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok, spoke to the guy earlier and he said if the plastic is sanded it will just 'fur up' and never go smooth!?
gsi- fish
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11th Apr 05 at 21:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i work in a vauxhall body shop n am a panel beater but know about the pain side of things. we have done this plenty of times at work, basically we sand the orange peel effect down with 320 grit (takes time but does the job) any other grit rougher tends to tear in to the plastic. we then plastic primer then prine again with metal primer which creates a primer that sticks like super glue then paint either metalic or solid the results are fantastic and no jobs have ever come back. my mate had his done at my place and 2 years on its still mint.
blue_lew
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11th Apr 05 at 21:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and how much would you charge for full colour coding, if all the prep work was done by myself, just blue needed?
gsi- fish
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11th Apr 05 at 23:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

depends were you live im based in burnley
Richie B
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12th Apr 05 at 00:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not too much

its like 110-150 for it all done
gsi- fish
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i could do it for 130 but all depends on wrer you live on wether i can do it im from burnley
Richie B
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12th Apr 05 at 00:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

130 for just painted or 130 for it rubbed down too??
gsi- fish
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12th Apr 05 at 00:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

stripped rubed and painted butlooks like you live in newc so your to far away
Richie B
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12th Apr 05 at 00:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know im too far i was just wondering
gsi- fish
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12th Apr 05 at 00:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok
blue_lew
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12th Apr 05 at 17:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im in suffolk, near great yarmouth, so im miles too far, il just do the rubbing and priming myself then get it all sprayed i guess!!

 
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