John
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The only reason the iphone was so big is because it's apple and people love apple.
Nokia is the best manufacturer going and crammed loads of features into the N95 making it popular.
Gimmicks from vodafone will not be enough to make it a hit.
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Robbo
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Its not our phone though
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John
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If it's vodafone only it'll be a big risk, that's different from apple being one network only.
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dave17
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this has been talked up quite alot now........
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John
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Even if it was the best phone ever invented it's doomed to failure after this thread 
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bubble
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Originally posted by John
The only reason the iphone was so big is because it's apple and people love apple.
Nokia is the best manufacturer going and crammed loads of features into the N95 making it popular.
Gimmicks from vodafone will not be enough to make it a hit.
how do u decipher nokia are the best?
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Hammer
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The massive marketing budget they're talking about is Robbo and Bubblevaux's Christmas bonus 
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John
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They sell the most phones mainly.
Certianly isn't SE who were 95% down on profits from the same time last year.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by Hammer
The massive marketing budget they're talking about is Robbo and Bubblevaux's Christmas bonus
Nah, just my salary 
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Robbo
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If it's vodafone only it'll be a big risk, that's different from apple being one network only.
How so? We are represented in every major market in the world 
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dave17
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robbo and bubble IS the marketing budget, causing quite a stir 
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Robbo
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Yesh, we have been re-assigned to stir up global interest, start point... Corsasport 
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John
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Originally posted by John
If it's vodafone only it'll be a big risk, that's different from apple being one network only.
How so? We are represented in every major market in the world
You either have current voda customers who want to upgrade, or new customers, in which case the phone and/or contract deal have to be good enough to pull people away from say the iphone.
Voda have the iphone in other countries, will this new phone steal that custom?
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bubble
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Originally posted by John
They sell the most phones mainly.
Certianly isn't SE who were 95% down on profits from the same time last year.
yes they do-also have the highest return rate(nokia)
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John
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Do they have the highest return percentage or rate?
If they sell more there will obvioulsy be more coming back.
On that note though, i'm just about to phone o2 for my brother because his n95 is away for the 4th time.
My E51 however is a brilliant phone that i've not had one problem with, you need to expect some faults.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by John
If it's vodafone only it'll be a big risk, that's different from apple being one network only.
How so? We are represented in every major market in the world
You either have current voda customers who want to upgrade, or new customers, in which case the phone and/or contract deal have to be good enough to pull people away from say the iphone.
Voda have the iphone in other countries, will this new phone steal that custom?
Sorry I see what you mean
Well we only sell the iPhone in 10 markets atm... mostly fairly obscure markets, none of the key ones (UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain or US) IIRC so I guess thats a question for the future
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bubble
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by John
If it's vodafone only it'll be a big risk, that's different from apple being one network only.
How so? We are represented in every major market in the world
You either have current voda customers who want to upgrade, or new customers, in which case the phone and/or contract deal have to be good enough to pull people away from say the iphone.
Voda have the iphone in other countries, will this new phone steal that custom?
no. the iphone was launched across vodafones estates in countries where 2g isnt that strong-this new phone is being launched only in countries where the 3g is very good.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by John
Do they have the highest return percentage or rate?
If they sell more there will obvioulsy be more coming back.
On that note though, i'm just about to phone o2 for my brother because his n95 is away for the 4th time.
My E51 however is a brilliant phone that i've not had one problem with, you need to expect some faults.
I hear all thes eproblems with N95s yet so far *touches wood* mine has been spot on
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bubble
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Originally posted by John
Do they have the highest return percentage or rate?
If they sell more there will obvioulsy be more coming back.
On that note though, i'm just about to phone o2 for my brother because his n95 is away for the 4th time.
My E51 however is a brilliant phone that i've not had one problem with, you need to expect some faults.
percentage, based on sales. so in one respect its good they sell so many, but the more they sell the more that fail.
depends how u perceive what is a good thign really
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John
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They're still percieved to be the best manufacturer, I had a quick look there, in America they sell more than the next 3 highest put together.
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bubble
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They're still percieved to be the best manufacturer, I had a quick look there, in America they sell more than the next 3 highest put together.
motorola sell the most in usa on verizon apparently?
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John
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http://www.computeractive.co.uk/vnunet/news/2224753/nokia-grows-market-share
40% of the world market.
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bubble
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http://www.computeractive.co.uk/vnunet/news/2224753/nokia-grows-market-share
40% of the world market.
sell the most-repair the most!
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John
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I'm not disagreeing with that, but is the percentage of returns vs sales much worse than any other manufacturer?
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bubble
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I'm not disagreeing with that, but is the percentage of returns vs sales much worse than any other manufacturer?
it only seems higher because of how much they do sell, so really it makes it worse than what it is.
for every 10 nokia sell, 3 come back.
for every 10 se sold, 2 come back, but the volume of sales makes nokia seem worse tbf
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