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DangerousDave16v
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7th Aug 03 at 18:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im not thinking of upgrading my brakes but just wanted to understand a bit more.
I know the guys who've dropped in red tops put on vectra/astra pads,discs and calipers ,but i would have thought you'd have needed to increase the actual force applied to the discs??

i know you can uses braided lines etc ,but is there anyway you can increase the force, maybe you use the servo system from the donor car?
just on the quest for knowledge

cheers
Wolf In Welsh Clothing
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Registered: 31st Mar 03
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7th Aug 03 at 23:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Astra/vectra clipers are bigger and use more fluid to move the piston creating the bigger force.
Also changing to 288mm gives a greater force as it increases the distance from the pivot .
V6 breaks may feel spongy but ive drove them without servo assistance (had a vacuum leak- brake servo hose came off!) and would say it wasn't worth the cost of upgrading the master cylinder as they stil stopped ya well enough!

[Edited on 07-08-2003 by Wolf In Welsh Clothing]
MC Kustoms
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7th Aug 03 at 23:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how much is it to upgrad the master cylinder as iv got a 1.2 8v soon putting a red top
miles
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8th Aug 03 at 00:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Not sure what its like on corsa's but the lower spec nova's have a smaller servo than the top models. Servo's from other vaux's have been fitted.

The bite isn't really improved with these conversions, its the stopping from speed and the lack of brake fade which makes them useful.

I dont think I've had my V6 brakes fade, maybe a tad at castle combe, but not a lot.
MC Kustoms
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8th Aug 03 at 00:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so if i put on the v6 kit i will be ok
mike16v
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8th Aug 03 at 08:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah they'll be fine, speed6 which V6 kit u goin for and where from??

im gonna go for the v-tuning kit me thinks
Daimo B
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8th Aug 03 at 09:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've deffo got a problem then, cos my V6 brakes get hot damn quick (plain discs) and the pedal feel is awful
Cybermonkey
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8th Aug 03 at 09:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

one of the most complicated jobs is changing the master cylinder and servo on a corsa. good luck

Dave
and-m
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8th Aug 03 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is yours a B or a C ?
AJBek
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10th Aug 03 at 16:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just fitted V-tuning V6 brake kit yesterday to my corsa. I have heard a lot about the spongey feel to the pedal, but I didn't feel it was too bad, there was slightly more travel than before but it still felt OK. It is too soon to say what the stopping power was like as I am still bedding in. I think a lot depends on how you drive. I want good initial stopping power rather then no fade as I rarely hammer my brakes and have never had a problem with fade even with std brakes. I just felt they didn't slow me down fast enough I you do hammer the brakes a bit more then fade is more of an issue.
AdamF
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10th Aug 03 at 16:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you sure there not binding daimo you could be boiling the fluid giving a shit pedal
MattyB
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10th Aug 03 at 18:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

For a corsa with a 2.0 16v..........ATE Callipers from a Callibra, Cav or Astra are MORE THAN sufficient.

V6 are for show, and although great for stoppin a very heavy vectra from 150mph, there too much for a little corsa, and i've heard too many stories bout locking up, spongy pedal, having to upgrade the master cylinder etc....

A nice set of ATE calipers with a brand new set of discs and pads (perfomance ones or not) will do you fine.

Matt
Adam-D
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10th Aug 03 at 19:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what car-engine-spec did these ate claipers come prom and what do i need
"list pls" to fit em
MattyB
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10th Aug 03 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cavaliers (most except V6)
Astra GTE's (all)
Calibra 2.0 16v's

Matt
Adam-D
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12th Aug 03 at 12:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so if i got a mk2 astra gte 2.0 16v i could swop its enge g\box and brakes over to my corsa? do i need a kit or sumthing to fit the brakes or do they go straight on?
cheeers
stuyw
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Registered: 15th May 02
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12th Aug 03 at 15:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

brakes go straight on m8
Adam-D
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13th Aug 03 at 04:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanks phella
much appreciated

 
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