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XE luke
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25th Jan 09 at 12:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can you put bike carbs on any engine??
is it a case of removing old inlet etc and having a custom inlet made that will mate with the bike carbs and getting an ecu to run it?

not quite sure how it works or prices but its something id like to look into doing??


any help be great
Vaux Lad
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25th Jan 09 at 12:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In theory yeah
Kevxx
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25th Jan 09 at 12:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the ecu doesn't run bike carbs...thats the point to them really :S

and yeah basically, Av it can explain! OR call Bogg brothers.
XE luke
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25th Jan 09 at 12:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

???
lol
so how does it run??
whats usually cost of making a car run on bike carbs??
thanks
fazza
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25th Jan 09 at 12:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when u run a car on bike carbs u dont need an ecu.

you can use an ignition only setup to run them.

but yeh u need carbs, inlet manifold made up, a dizzy to and ignition coil to run them.

if you speak to andy(av it) he will know everything thats needed.

what engine u putting them on??
Kevxx
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25th Jan 09 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if it's an xe which i think it will be, look up R1 bike carbs, H&H solutions for a ignition setup, bogg brothers for a inlet manifold.

Sure Av it would set it up for oyu, but you need a few others thing to run this.

And yes no ecu, cause old engines were carbs no ecu exactly how they run.

i can give you some help if you u2u me, but i'm not an expert!

[Edited on 25-01-2009 by Kevxx]
fazza
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25th Jan 09 at 12:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if it is for a c20xe mate, then as kev said about the r1 carbs will be cheapest option.

see here:

http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/resources/totalvauxhall/TOV64.tech60697.pdf

there is also a lad on pngclub iirc that is selling a complete r1 carb setup to go onto the c20xe
XE luke
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25th Jan 09 at 12:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope
thinking of buying a mk5 fiesta zetec s

puny 100bhp as standard
think it would be different to set it up on bike carbs as the inlet is as the front of the engine on the zetec-s' and would get a great supply of cold air would be great

could it be done for under 1k??
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by XE luke
nope
thinking of buying a mk5 fiesta zetec s

puny 100bhp as standard
think it would be different to set it up on bike carbs as the inlet is as the front of the engine on the zetec-s' and would get a great supply of cold air would be great

could it be done for under 1k??



Bogg brothers will let you drive in and out for £800-900 i'm sure!

Zetec engines can run the r1 or suzuki carbs, Iirc!

[Edited on 25-01-2009 by Kevxx]
fazza
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25th Jan 09 at 12:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no probably not.

as you would need proper aftermarket management to run it, in which case your better of getting tb's on it as they can be set up alot more presicely and will have better results
Ant
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I dont know the zetec's well at all you would have to check to see if they have a dizzy drive if not you need an ecu to run the ignition.
XE luke
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25th Jan 09 at 16:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ITB's more expensive though arent they?
heard can be about 2.5-3k for a tb set up
Nic Barnes
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25th Jan 09 at 16:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

use bike tb's. can get them pretty cheap.

you used to be able to get ignition only ecu's to run carbs with a fixed dizzy. i had an mbe one on my nova years ago. was only about 150 quid.
Kurt
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25th Jan 09 at 16:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Google pumaspeed..

they do all sorts for zetecs and st's
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quote:
Originally posted by XE luke
ITB's more expensive though arent they?
heard can be about 2.5-3k for a tb set up



Buy and set of Bike carbs but run them as tb's. Just ask bogg bro's to drill some injector holes in the manifold for ya. Then you have the cheapness of carbs, but the performance of tb's Only costly part is management still though...not sure how to get round that one...


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mattfiesta
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25th Jan 09 at 16:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
Google pumaspeed..

they do all sorts for zetecs and st's


they are also nobheads lol
XE luke
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25th Jan 09 at 17:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just looked but its all exhausts etc

i want it quite with a suprise under the bonnet

just the natural roar of bike carbs

surely someone knows a company lol

 
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