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PaulW
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15th Nov 03 at 11:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
PLEASE HELP!!!

Ok my mum just put £20 of diesel in a petrol car, and now she cant stop the engine, battery is disconnected yet its still going, what can she do???

we need this engine stopping now!!!!
Kerry
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pull the plugs off
PaulW
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its a carb engine too, a 1.6 astra carb 8v
Kerry
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leads i meant
PaulW
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they aint got tools there stuck in middle of nowhere & rang me & i have no car to get tot hem
Scott
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ur car will still run with the battey disconnected, pull plugs out or sumit

i would haev thought putting that in a car it wouldnt go at all
Kerry
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try and stall it then
Scott
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try stalling it ?
Scott
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Kerry
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im beatin u everytime scott
Scott
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i know
Kerry
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put it in 5th and try and pull away or somat with no accelration
Mistamist
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either stall it, block the air intake, or hit it with a big stick.
Drew
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disconnet the multiplug from the coil
PaulW
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ok they stopped it, what sort of damage are we looking at here?? as i said it a carb engine, 1.6 astra G reg

please they stalled it now, there old & silly
Mistamist
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diesel has a much lower ignition temperature so its being ignighted just by the temperature in the cylinders. so it will still seem like its running. Tell ya mum shes a muppet.
Kerry
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are they in recovery?? get it towed home and take it from there
PaulW
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yeah they rang the AA, mum is a bit upset, they been having a hard time with a few things lately, so TBH I aint suprised it slipped her mind.

Just told her to stop cryin & ill re-build the engine if I have to myself, I just need to know what sort of damage (if any) may be caused by this.

They said it was blowing out loads of white smoke, but I know this will be the diesel due to the oil in it (hopefully)

I know I'll need to flush the entire fuel syste,. drain the tank & clean the carbs, what about possible head damage / seals / valves??
AndyW
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tis a bitch that. i nearly put diesle in mine the other day, cos the unleaded nozzle and the diesle were both green n in my half asleep mind at 6am i nearly fooked up.
Kerry
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my mum did it and after a flush was good as new but i honestly dont know enough to tell u if that was just luck or whether everythin will be ok

i think it will need new fuel filter/plugs maybe !!
Drew
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found this if any help...


BUT, BUT, the diesel tends to separate out in a (carb)float chamber, and under high demand (ie high revs full throttle) you sometimes got too much diesel = loss of power and huge volumes of white smoke. Less of a problem on injected cars where fuel is constantly swirling in tank.But even on injected cars, at anything above around 4,500 rpm the point was reached where the diesel could not burn quickly enough, again = huge white smokeout.

At the point where the diesel ceased to burn completely a high proportion of it was forced down past the rings into the sump, so we saw oil levels rising and oil dilution occuring. At this point the experiments were curtailed, but the inside of the engines involved were spotlessly clean !
Kerry
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15th Nov 03 at 12:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
so am i right in sayin no major problems?
PaulW
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oil change aswell then, just hope the rings aint shagged then with the diesel passing down like the thing u said drew
PaulW
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hope so kerry!! i'll have fun later today/tomorrow flushing the system out, may get some pics of it for a laf!
Kerry
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do a fuel flush and an engine flush and oil change paul

 
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