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neoquip

posted on 29th Dec 10 at 18:06

never PVC bare plaster walls, its what ppl do when they don't know enough about decorating!


Thing is, you need to be clear what the problem is, without seeing it myself I can't be 100%.
Ie:
is the walls/plaster damp through...
1: a leak from somewhere and the surface is wet through that.
2: moisure from shower/bath
3: lack of ventalition and not enough heat.


bathrooms are trricky.

depends on circulation of air... and size of room.


My bathroom is all contract matt emultion.... No problems 3years on.. got a fan and a window and it's half tiled and quite big.

My ensuite is contract matt emulsion on ceiling... and walls, then I've done a paint effect on the walls, then glazed/vanished it with emulsion Glaze in matt finish... no window, just a fan in there.


Strip and loose paint off.

on bare plaster give a coat of thinned emulsion... this then soaks into the bare plaster.

Then you can either use:

1, emulsion Matt (as long as you don't get bad condensation in the room).

2, a soft sheen or vinyl silk emulsion ( this will give you a shinny surface that will make moisure run down on the paint surafce if condension is bad)

3, Dulux bathroom MATTpaint (from B&Q etc) is the same as the Dulux TRADE Diamond matt paint) Crown tarde do Clean Extreme in Matt. this is very good in bathrooms too

4, Crown do anti condensation paint as well, this would be a last resort if you have big condensation issues.




mold comes when you have damp wet enviroments with no heat and air circulation.


Address these things in a bathroom first.




[Edited on 29-12-2010 by neoquip]


Dom

posted on 29th Dec 10 at 17:01

quote:
Originally posted by neoquip
quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
strip the paint off and give it a coat of a pva glue/water mix. maybe even 2 coats

then paint as normal

should stop it flaking then!

[Edited on 15-12-2010 by IvIarkgraham]



No.. never do that!!!!!!!

why would you put PVA on bare plaster!!!

it's a big NO NO.


Was thinking the same. Got any suggestions Neo?


neoquip

posted on 29th Dec 10 at 16:58

quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
strip the paint off and give it a coat of a pva glue/water mix. maybe even 2 coats

then paint as normal

should stop it flaking then!

[Edited on 15-12-2010 by IvIarkgraham]



No.. never do that!!!!!!!

why would you put PVA on bare plaster!!!

it's a big NO NO.


luciaadr

posted on 22nd Dec 10 at 13:45

quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Just to add most extractor fans are shit :lol: Best thing to do is have an in-line fan in the loft screwed to a joist. This way you get the maximum extraction rate without any noise ;)

Even with our window wide open the tiled walls still run with water :| hence why i need to sort the in-line fan out! No place to vent outside though :(


Got a (covered) cold water tank in the loft you can vent into?


Kano

posted on 21st Dec 10 at 18:51

I've had the dulux anti mould stuff on the ceiling in our bathroom for over a year now and its perfect. We dont have an extractor fan either so it gets quite wet.


Sam

posted on 15th Dec 10 at 15:36

Big tubs of sodium chloride crystals (i.e. salt) will help as salt attracts moisture and the crystals turn into brine, which you can then heat up and turn back into salt again! :lol:


IvIarkgraham

posted on 15th Dec 10 at 02:50

strip the paint off and give it a coat of a pva glue/water mix. maybe even 2 coats

then paint as normal

should stop it flaking then!

[Edited on 15-12-2010 by IvIarkgraham]


CORSA NUT

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 20:58

Just to add most extractor fans are shit :lol: Best thing to do is have an in-line fan in the loft screwed to a joist. This way you get the maximum extraction rate without any noise ;)

Even with our window wide open the tiled walls still run with water :| hence why i need to sort the in-line fan out! No place to vent outside though :(


CORSA NUT

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 20:55

Had this problem recently mate...

Just scraped off the old paint and sanded the rough edges down..2 coats of undercoat then 2 coats of Dulux bathrrom ceiling paint.


Dom

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 20:25

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
might not be an option but it would help o put an extractor in, we were having this problem and a fan is the only thing that totaly stopped it in the end


Already have a 8/9" extractor at the end of the bath, this is why we're confused to why the ceiling peels. Likewise the window is opened every time someone uses the shower/bath.

Jungle - Will give it a go, but the ceiling has been painted a handful of times since we've been in the house (15yrs or so) and it seems to peel every time. Hence why i was wondering if there is any paint that won't do this.


jungle

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 14:52

just strip it off and use some mid sheen or even silk on it but don't whatever you do is use matt on it


Sam

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 13:50

Agreed. Our bathroom doesn't have an extractor (and the landlord won't put one in). There was a shitty mirror cabinet thing that covered about 80% of the vent hole in the wall which I ripped off the wall after one of the doors fell off when my wife tried to open it before using the shower (the mirror glass shattered everywhere and she was VERY lucky not to have been cut by any of the glass!).

I went out and bought a bigger vent cover thingy from Wickes as whoever put a small one covering the exposed hole on top of the cabinet (no wonder there was no ventilation in there!). We also cleaned the walls and ceiling in that area with vinegar (they were all covered in mould) and then I painted everywhere with that anti mould paint for bathrooms, no mould growth as yet though!

Although I still need to tackle the black mould shite that's on the silicone where the bath tub is! :mad:


mattk

posted on 14th Dec 10 at 12:25

might not be an option but it would help o put an extractor in, we were having this problem and a fan is the only thing that totaly stopped it in the end


Sam

posted on 13th Dec 10 at 17:23

I used some anti mould paint as our bathroom (as with the rest of this house) is a piece of crap.

Hasn't peeled off as yet, did this about 3 weeks ago I think though :lol:


Dom

posted on 13th Dec 10 at 17:08

The ceiling was recently painted, 3-4months ago (used a polycell basecoat and vinyl top), and it has already started to flake and peel directly over the bath/shower area - guessing moisture has got to it. As the ceiling is going to get stripped and painted again, i was wondering what's the best paint to use for a bathroom ceiling?

:wave: