easier management, voip devices don't have to listen to all the broadcast shite happening in the 'main' vlan

Is there any real benefit to segregating the VOIP traffic for say.... 30-40 users?

If you want to segregate the VoIP traffic into it's own vlan for network qos etc. if you don't have it already then I wouldn't worry as you'll be needing to reconfigure a few things

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Originally posted by VrsTurbo
Layer3?

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Layer3?

without necessarily needing a "cheap switch", any recommendations for a specific switch to the following specs;

-48 Port gigabit
-POE (for VOIP phones to be connected)
-Stackable (with a decent transfer rate).

I think I should be looking at Procurve or Cisco, but any particular models?

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Originally posted by willay
We use exclusively Cisco POE phones with HP PoE switches, we have 0 issues.

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Cisco guys setting it all up must have been idiots (completely plausible)

We use exclusively Cisco POE phones with HP PoE switches, we have 0 issues.

Cisco phones/systems are funny with non Cisco switches.

Ive never really had any issues with the 300 series.

I have in the last 18 months deployed over 700 Netgear GS110TP in to a retail environment and had all but 2 failures (6 months after install) good switches for a good price.

http://www.comms-express.com/products/netgear-gs110tp/

And lifetime warranty :thumbs:

I've got some newer lower end Cisco phone system/router things and I greatly dislike them. They aren't that much more stable than another random brand.

I had an ASA that used to shut the Fa ports down whenever it felt like it. Never got to the bottom of it.

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Originally posted by Kyle T
Yeah Cisco is lifetime too.

Power blocks are an option, but I get the feeling that PoE isn't driving my price up much - it's the fibre uplink ports (or capability of running them).

GBICs are just a stupid amount of money, there are non-cisco ones for a bit cheaper but had a few of those fail on me, or just not even work in the first place.

In hindsight, I should have had them run 2pair copper to the satellite buildings and then run an ATA or similar and some crappy analogue phones. Hey-ho.

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Lots of people use third party gbics with no issues, I cant comment personally but its in wide use.

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Originally posted by Kyle T
Yeah Cisco is lifetime too.

Power blocks are an option, but I get the feeling that PoE isn't driving my price up much - it's the fibre uplink ports (or capability of running them).

GBICs are just a stupid amount of money, there are non-cisco ones for a bit cheaper but had a few of those fail on me, or just not even work in the first place.

In hindsight, I should have had them run 2pair copper to the satellite buildings and then run an ATA or similar and some crappy analogue phones. Hey-ho.

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the small stuff isn't 'proper' cisco, afaik there isnt much access to IOS (its quite cut down), its just not what you'd expect from standard IOS devices imo.

There are problems with the 300 series stuff...

One site where cost is an issue I'm using netgear prosafes and they are good as gold.

Crikey, good find - never looked at the small business stuff before, why is it so cheap?!

Cisco small business 300 series?

http://www.comms-express.com/categories/cisco-10-100-switches-300-series-with-poe-poe/



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Yeah Cisco is lifetime too.

Power blocks are an option, but I get the feeling that PoE isn't driving my price up much - it's the fibre uplink ports (or capability of running them).

GBICs are just a stupid amount of money, there are non-cisco ones for a bit cheaper but had a few of those fail on me, or just not even work in the first place.

In hindsight, I should have had them run 2pair copper to the satellite buildings and then run an ATA or similar and some crappy analogue phones. Hey-ho.

for non Cisco stuff, a HP E2610 might do the job if they still sell them. We have them here as edge switches (I hate them), but they do 24/48 port configs with or without PoE, and all the other stuff you need. Very cheap in comparison and have lifetime warranty (though I read in some places that cisco do lifetime warranty if you bought it new?)

Stick with Cisco if you can get away with, if there is only one phone per building why not just fork out the £15 for the power block?

I need some cheap switches, they need the following:

At least a couple of PoE interfaces
Support VLANs and Spanning-Tree
Have two interfaces to allow SingleMode LC fibre

I've basically got a site with 8 buildings, all connected via fibre. My Network/IT/CME equipment is in Building 1, I've got an additional switch in building 2 as this will become the office environment, but for safety purposes I may need an IP phone in every other building.

It may be a SINGLE phone in the other buildings, and based on the 2960 switches I usually buy it's probably going to be $2k per building, just for one phone :lol:

I thought about Fibre convertors, but they're not very scalable - though you can get PoE ones apparently.

I mention two fibre interfaces because the buildings are in a Fibre ring, so for redundancy I'll be linking the whole lot around - also hence the Spanning Tree.

I've NEVER shopped for non-Cisco stuff before, but wondered if there are any cheaper solutions around for what I need. I'm pretty sure it's the fibre that's killing me, as the bloody GBICs cost as much as some of the smaller switches.