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ed	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 19:53
	Nothing wrong with a second hand set. Going to get a Bose headset sometime soon and there's no way I'm forking out £750 for it when you can get a second hand ones that have been serviced e.t.c for a lot less than that. But back to topic, I had a go with some Sennheiser over-ears in your price range in Black the other day which were very good. I can't remember the model number, but it's worth having a look at their range I'd say.
Dom	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 19:16
	quote: Originally posted by Balling quote: Originally posted by music1990 Tkmaxx were selling WESC oboes for £30 when I went in 2 weeks ago. Nice clear sound, clear bass. Braided protection on the cable. Best headphones I've owned quote: Originally posted by Dom music1990 - What model are they? Oboe's (think that's what they're called)? :o :P :facepalm::lol: Amazon (was posted on Hukd) have the Klipsch X1 in-ears on sale at £15 which is a decent price for those.
Balling	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 17:25
	quote: Originally posted by music1990 Tkmaxx were selling WESC oboes for £30 when I went in 2 weeks ago. Nice clear sound, clear bass. Braided protection on the cable. Best headphones I've owned quote: Originally posted by Dom music1990 - What model are they? Oboe's (think that's what they're called)? :o :P I think this is the first time I've actually heard a genuinely positive statement about a pair of WESC headphones. I've always had the feeling they were made as a piece of accessory more than a piece of hifi.
Dom	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 16:42
	quote: Originally posted by Balling quote: Originally posted by Marc quote: Originally posted by pow Second hand headphones :lol: :lol: Please. Agreed, that is pretty grim! :boggle: How so? If looking at say a 130 £ pair of headphones I would gladly go for a used pair at half price. This! Considering headphones can run into serious money, eg - Audeze's, buying second-hand is the only real affordable way of doing it. If you were talking about in-ears/IEMs then i would agree with you as parts aren't easily accessible. But as i said previously, on a decent set of over-heads everything can be broken down (pads, enclosures, drivers, headband etc) and cleaned (or replaced) so there isn't a problem there. To be honest it's no different to buying a second-hand pair speakers. music1990 - What model are they? Oboe's (think that's what they're called)? [Edited on 02-11-2011 by Dom]
Matty W	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 14:15
	Tkmaxx were selling WESC oboes for £30 when I went in 2 weeks ago. Nice clear sound, clear bass. Braided protection on the cable. Best headphones I've owned
Balling	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 13:32
	quote: Originally posted by Marc quote: Originally posted by pow Second hand headphones :lol: :lol: Please. Agreed, that is pretty grim! :boggle: How so? If looking at say a 130 £ pair of headphones I would gladly go for a used pair at half price.
Marc	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 13:25
	quote: Originally posted by pow Second hand headphones :lol: :lol: Please. Agreed, that is pretty grim!
Neo	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 13:22
	Personally I'd just go looking for a set of sennheiser's or shures that are the top end of my budget and read a few reviews. Can't really go wrong.
pow	posted on 2nd Nov 11 at 12:42
	Second hand headphones :lol: :lol: Please.
Munchie	posted on 1st Nov 11 at 12:26
	www.play.com enter HEADPHONES10 for a 10% discount
Balling	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 20:33
	quote: Originally posted by Dom If the K430's are anything like the K420's then they might be a good shout as the 420's were alright for the money and were no where near as muddled as the K450's. Can't comment on the 420's and 450's but for my music taste, which is mostly rock, I find the 430's quite good, price tag in consideration and all.
Dom	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:54
	If the K430's are anything like the K420's then they might be a good shout as the 420's were alright for the money and were no where near as muddled as the K450's. K518's and K81's might be worth looking at, as well as Sony MDRV6's. Edit - Looks like the K450 have it 'cranked' on the bottom end - Freq Response's quote: Originally posted by Jake go on amazon and have a look around.. read the reviews and that. fuck buying second hand headphones In-ears yes, over-ears/full size not really as everything can pretty much be cleaned if that's your worry. [Edited on 31-10-2011 by Dom]
Jake	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:51
	go on amazon and have a look around.. read the reviews and that. fuck buying second hand headphones
Balling	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:41
	BTW I have a set of AKG K430's that I find to be a good buy at the price. However, though not as bad as the Grado's, they too let in a lot of outside noise. For a small, compact, closed back headphone I think they're extremely potent.
Dom	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:34
	quote: Originally posted by Joe Cheers Dom, will have a look around a bit more then. Total minefield to me. It's no different to buying a pair of speakers tbh, it's just as expensive except it's a bit harder to try headphones out. As said though, have a look on head-fi as there is a load of information on there. And if you plan on using headphones for any real length of time i would really recommend a headphone amp (even a cheapy CMOY which can picked up off eBay for £20/30) especially if you use an iPod as source which tend to distort reasonably easily and the internal amp lacks any real grunt to power anything (you'd bypass the internal amp on an iPad by using the line-out connectors on the dock connector rather than the headphone output). Balling - Surprised by that although I haven't tried the SR60's on a flight yet. Different pads might sort that though.... [Edited on 31-10-2011 by Dom]
Balling	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:32
	I will not recommend Grado for plane travel. My SR80i's sound fantastic at home, but in a noisy plane I have to crank the volume a lot which becomes uncomfortable after a while. I have a pair of Shure SRH240 that I've used on four 7+ hour flights now. Fantastic headphones. Completely isolated from outside noise and very comfortable. Only letdown is that they take up quite a bit of room in your inflight luggage. I just wear them around the neck and pretend I'm a DJ... http://www.iheadphones.co.uk/shure-srh240.html
Joe	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:26
	Cheers Dom, will have a look around a bit more then. Total minefield to me.
Dom	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:24
	As said, second-hand pair for Grado SR60/SR125's for that sort of money; or add 30/40 quid a buy a new pair of SR60's (SR125's are around the £100-120 range from what I remember). A reasonable pair of in-ears can be had for £60 but not over-ears/full size, ideally you need around double that. Could give the AKG K450's a try, they're only £40, compact and come with a decent carry case for phones + ipod etc But as I said, I thought they sounded rough as and lacked any treble. Yet to try to them with a headphone amp but i can't imagine even a decent amp would sort them out. quote: Originally posted by Joe Those AKG's look ok to me.. I would really try them before you buy though. I'd imagine Curry's/Argos/John Lewis would stock them. [Edited on 31-10-2011 by Dom]
Joe	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:16
	Those AKG's look ok to me..
Joe	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:14
	To be honest, I'm not much of a tech guy and not great with this whole sound quality thing. Apparantly the Bose system in my car is shit according to the internet but to my ears it sounds great. So basically just looking for a brand suggestion so I don't buy something too cheap and nasty. Looking at the over the head type ones as opposed to in ear ones. Someone got to help a brother out.
Dom	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 19:08
	Over-ears, second hand pair of Grado's sr60's or sr125's can be had for £60 and they are absolutely brilliant. Even better if you can get a headphone amp to power them. In-ears, the Senn's CX870 are pretty decent for that sort of money also Head-Direct RE2's and RE1's if you can get hold of a pair. Fischer Audio and Audio Technica are also worth looking at for headphones. I'd see if you can try out a few pairs though as it's all a matter of opinion/taste (ie: AKGk450's - i think they sound like cack, far too bass/mid heavy to the point of muddiness and sound like they're being played through a loo roll tube. But they they get fairly good reviews so go figure.) Also worth having a scout of Head-fi.org forums, loads of decent reviews/threads etc. Jacko - over-ears would be fine, certainly i've worn my DT250's on long flights without any problems. Only issue you'd have is sound leaking but a decent pair of closed-backs (vs open-backed) would be ok. You tend to have comfort issues wearing in-ears/IEM's over any lengthy amount of time unless moulded. [Edited on 31-10-2011 by Dom]
jacko198	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 18:58
	Wouldnt bother with headphones for a flight, in ears would sound better especially on a plane
pow	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 18:32
	+1 be interested to hear. Bluetooth ones would be cool too
Joe	posted on 31st Oct 11 at 18:25
	Going away in a couple of weeks so got a long flight coming up, Any suggestions.. Looking to spend £60 tops really.