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birchieboy	posted on 22nd Oct 13 at 07:34
	Midilite willwoods with 280 discs, Compbrake pedel box with .625 front and .7 rear masters, braided lines throughout, rear Corsa c disc conversion, willwood rear bias adjuster
Robin	posted on 21st Oct 13 at 12:07
	What brake setup do you have?
birchieboy	posted on 21st Oct 13 at 11:58
	quote: Originally posted by AK Surprised to hear you are having fade with DS3000s :O They are a fairly aggressive pad, that can take a lot of heat. What brake fluid are you using? We used to use DS3000 but switched to Carbotech because the DS3000 was very aggressive on discs. The XP8 is a fast road/light track pad, like a DS2500. The XP10, XP12 and XP16 are the ones to look at. I have 10, fee ran 12's in the GTR. I couldnt notice too much of a difference in them. Work much better than DS3000 from cold. I was running Dot 5.1 racing fluid, not any particular make. Them switched to willwood high temp fluid. Can't remember the full name to be honest. They don't fade dramatically, they just don't have the same inital bite as they do in the first 15/20mins of the race. Find myself pressing the brake pedal down slightly further to get the car slowed down
Ojc	posted on 18th Oct 13 at 13:15
	AK recommend them to me, thanks x
AK	posted on 18th Oct 13 at 08:46
	Surprised to hear you are having fade with DS3000s :O They are a fairly aggressive pad, that can take a lot of heat. What brake fluid are you using? We used to use DS3000 but switched to Carbotech because the DS3000 was very aggressive on discs. The XP8 is a fast road/light track pad, like a DS2500. The XP10, XP12 and XP16 are the ones to look at. I have 10, fee ran 12's in the GTR. I couldnt notice too much of a difference in them. Work much better than DS3000 from cold.
Toby	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 19:33
	My brother is using the rc5+ in his r26. Would rate then above ds2500 but they haven't seen the type of performance you are wanting so not much help and I've never driven the ds3000.
birchieboy	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 19:13
	quote: Originally posted by chris_uk tbh, they are shit compared to the stuff we use. ask kyle what he thinks to his RC5+'s and you can even upgrade to the 6's now which are a hotter temp pad.. I'll have a look into these also then, checked out a few reviews between the xp10 and rc6 just now and the only different reported is pedal feel. Stopping distances seem to be similar. I must admit I'd not heard of carbon Lorraine before. Just will be considering this option to
VrsTurbo	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 16:02
	I've used RC6 a few times just hate the cost of 230ish for 3track days but my god they are immense! i love my PF ones i have in now though not as noisy either.
chris_uk	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 15:51
	tbh, they are shit compared to the stuff we use. ask kyle what he thinks to his RC5+'s and you can even upgrade to the 6's now which are a hotter temp pad..
birchieboy	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 15:38
	quote: Originally posted by chris_uk We use pagids on the vx race car, never had issues with fade. Ive got rc5+ and ive never had fade but never been too hard on then.. Performance friction pads are worth a look also. Yeah that's the key to my requirements, I'm hard on the brakes for 45 minutes! Bit longer than time attack stints. I do rate the ds3000 but they just loose their edge after about 20 - 30 mins
chris_uk	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 12:07
	We use pagids on the vx race car, never had issues with fade. Ive got rc5+ and ive never had fade but never been too hard on then.. Performance friction pads are worth a look also.
Ojc	posted on 17th Oct 13 at 06:16
	About 150 quid I think, can't remember x
smcGSI16V	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 19:21
	I've heard nothing but good things about the XP8's amongst other 888 guys. Never used them myself as I stick with good old ds2500 which do me for my 4 pots.
alan-g-w	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 17:46
	How much was it for customs made up ojc?
birchieboy	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 09:20
	quote: Originally posted by Ojc Yes me. I had some made up for my Astra VXR, I had to send off the backing plates from my old pads and they stuck their compound on. I had the XP8 and they where phenomenal, need a strict bedding in process. I always wanted four pots for it but after getting these pads wasn't needed. Get them. That's great thanks, going to measure up pad thickness and order the xp10's and give them a try in my next race
Ojc	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 09:06
	Dust is an issue and they do discolour your wheels if you don't keep on top of cleaning them
Ojc	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 09:05
	Yes me. I had some made up for my Astra VXR, I had to send off the backing plates from my old pads and they stuck their compound on. I had the XP8 and they where phenomenal, need a strict bedding in process. I always wanted four pots for it but after getting these pads wasn't needed. Get them.
VrsTurbo	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 08:23
	I've used RC6,PF & DS1.11 pads and they are excellent never had any fade with any of them and i brake hard. Some people with meganes have used the XP10 but preferred others because of the dust they create.
birchieboy	posted on 16th Oct 13 at 07:03
	Currently running ds3000 for my track car but after 20-30 mins on track they do start to fade, not badly but they seem to loose their bite and I find myself applying more pressure to the pedal. I already run brake ducts, looking for a pad that will hold up under high temperatures. Seen reviews of the carbotech pad online but they only compare them to an oem pad or yellow stuff which IMO are like cardboard on track anyway. Anyone had first hand use of a carbotech pad in a xp8 or xp10 compound?