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[quote][i]Originally posted by Ojc[/i] [quote][i]Originally posted by gez c16b[/i] corsa vxr with the precat (second cat) taken off and air filter will give a astra vxr a run until 110+. corsa handles better as standard, doesnt torque steer. but if you dont look after a corsa vxr the 4th piston is known to detonate, lol. [/quote] Show me this Corsa VXR with precat removed and 'air filter' and I won't turn stage 2 on we'll see if he gives me a 'run'. Having owned both, here is my opinion. First of all Corsa, brilliant car. Handles like an absolute dream, a-pillar can be a bit of a nightmare on some roads and roundabouts as it's in your line of sight as you approach particular roundabouts but you certainly get used to it. This 4th piston thing that is floating around is a bit of a myth, Vauxhall have only had like 5 cars in for the issue, 4 of them it would seem had been mapped at some point by the tuner that will remain nameless. Lots of tuning options avaliable for the Corsa, 230bhp with stage 1 map and precat removal with 250 avaliable with intercooler. Standard car is (189bhp) more than capable, having recently driven the Mk6 Golf GTi the Corsa would certainly keep pace with it if not start to edge it above 80mph. 130mph is easily achieved. Seats are nice and I prefer the steering wheel to the Astras. Boot space is pathetic, but unless you are lugging kids around I wouldn't let that get in the way of your decision. You have to get it with 18" wheels otherwise it just looks wrong, black is deffo the best colour to have it in. Now for the Astra, 237bhp out of the box. If you go from the Corsa and get straight into an Astra, I guarantee that you will buy the Astra. The moment you sit in the Astra with the black roof lining and seats that you sit in, rather than on. Then you start the engine find a nice bit of open road plant the throttle and it has you giggling like a girl, power delivery is a lot more harsh in the Astra compared with the Corsa but lots of people prefer that. Don't listen to idiots online that haven't a clue about the car, whining on about torque steer, I only ever notice it on roads in awful condition or where lorries have been driving for years and dug grooves into the road, and then I would imagine just about every car on the road would suffer the same issue. Handling as standard isn't up to the Corsa levels, but a lot of that is due to confidence. The Corsa gives you confidence as it's a lot easier to throw around, the Astra though has lots of grip but due to the standard car having a bit of a wallowy spring/damper setup you just don't know where the limit is. This all changes with a set of decent springs and a rear adjustable anti-roll bar. With these fitted it's a better handling car than the Corsa, not so chuckable than the Corsa as it's heavier but the RARB pushes the car from understeer to a very neutral handling car and all that difference for under £300. LSD will further improve this. Tuning wise the sky is the absolute limit, 237bhp as standard, Nurburgring has 250-260 with the Remus which is classed as Stage 1. Stage 2 is a remap and exhaust which takes the car to 280-285bhp with over 300lb/ft of torque, not only does the car feel a lot faster but the map smooths out the power delivery as well and makes it a lot more driveable. Stage 3 is 300bhp with the addition of an intercooler. We went from Astra VXR to Corsa VXR and back to the Astra albeit Nurburgring Edition and trust me now when I say this, you will wish you had an Astra when you get the Corsa. [/quote]
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