The confusion is that you say you want a 07-08 facelift .

This doesn't exist.

Facelift (gen 1) ran from 04-06.
Facelift (gen 2) ran from 10-14.

07-08 will be a pre-facelift gen 2.

It clearly says in the OP the reg years of the cars I'm looking at. I don't understand the confusion.

Thanks for the advice anyway. I've picked out the relevant bits :thumbs:

That's where he's confusing me.
The facelift was late 04 I think. And that's the r53 still.
The r56 came in late 06 and that's the turbo n14 cadburys engine

Cool well it seems you're talking about a whole new model R53 - R56 rather than a facelift...

Ride is a little rough, but it's mainly due to the runflats all Minis come with. I'm now down on coilovers and proper tyres and it feels a little better than stock :)

They changed engine and shape and everything in late 2006 mate.

But the early turbo engines. The n14's are plagued with problems. Hence me saying stay away

Funky looking cars and they are proper (not so) little go-karts but the drive is rough as bastard and it gets annoying fast :(

It will be an older one. 8-10 years old.

I said facelift as they changed and had new bumpers/lights etc from about 2007 onwards.

If your getting a cooper s. Get one after 2010. That's when they changed from the n14 engine to the n18
N14 was the one with the Coke issue. The chain issue. The HPFP issue. The rail pressure sensor issue. So on so forth.
They sorted most of the problems when it came to the n18 so it's the one to go for. They still Suggest a decoke every 30k though. But they use far less oil and don't have the common issues as the n14. There also MUCH better to tune if you wanted to go down that route.

You have to rememeber there are thousands and thousands of prefacelifts on the road with no problems at all, I often get the feeling that whenever you look at a buyers guide they try and get you to spend more than you need.

I'm not really up on the R56 models but I think the facelift came in about 2012 so you're a little bit out there.

The actual engine was different before then, or something about it at least. They (the MCS/JCW) basically all suffer from needing a decoke, not a massive issue though as only costs a few hundred to sort, but certainly worth remembering. My mate spent £16k on his 2011 JCW last year and has already had to have the decoke, timing chain change and flywheel go... all in all about £1,500 in repairs in just 6 months!

I think, looking at the Mini forum quite regularly (although Mini Torque is a horrid place really) it seems the general consensus is to go for an R53 facelift (2004-2006) or R56 facelift (2012-2015) for the least issues :)

I was lent a 2010 Mini Cooper S the other weekend and loved it. After hardly any deliberation our Clio has gone onto Autotrader and I am on the lookout for something mini-like for the wife (well...she'll be the wife in 5 weeks).

Anyway - I don't know a lot about these, but I have seen a lot crop up on here over the years so over to CS to pick up some tips :lol:.

I am looking at the facelift Cooper or Cooper S at about a 2007/57/08 plate. Criteria so far is decent history - I see a lot had this TLC pack which hopefully means they were taken back for servicing when they were supposed to. Chili Pack - I'm told a must have? Then the usuals - Low owners, decent tyres etc etc. Not fussed on higher mileage as it won't go far - Up to about 90k.

Is there anything I should be on the lookout for? Seen a bit about timing chains and using lots of oil etc.



[Edited on 01-05-2016 by VegasPhil]