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[quote][i]Originally posted by eyeopen[/i] [quote][i]Originally posted by eyeopen[/i] [quote][i]Originally posted by Ian[/i] Where to start. Firstly God doesn't exist so your question is moot. Secondly if you ask Christians at least, they will say that God's will is not to rid the world of evil, and that evil must exist in order to keep believers appreciative of all that is good. Hence why when you ask a religious person why God allows bad things, they have a stock answer. Thirdly, and please improve my understanding of masonry but would God being a higher power in charge and masonry being a higher power in charge not just be two models that satisfy the same paradigm? ie. if you believe in God then you want that God in charge. If you want masons in charge, if you want illuminati in charge etc. etc. Or are you proposing getting rid of it? In which case you default to God? See you claimed to be enlightened in that other thread. You so far do not fit with my definition of that because I would mostly use that word to mean that you have a rational outlook on things. Now that doesn't necessarily exclude religion, God etc., you could study cosmology and believe in God, many people do. But you don't appear to have considered other things as well. Its not enlightened to be grasping one (unlikely) scenario. Rather to consider them all. So I can listen to what you say, I don't personally subscribe to it but I'm not in a position to rule anything out. Same as I can't rule God out. I happen to think its implausible and incompatible with a lot of what is known about the universe but as a mere human you can't be 100% sure of anything like that. Perhaps you should consider in claiming that others are wrong that you too may also be. [/quote] I respect you answer but you didn't answer my question, you are brainwashed by the evil that rules. Whom said the world needs to be in balance? so If I help some one live you have to kill some one to make up for it? I don't follow religions, I am open to find truth of all religions and see the truth in them all, Our true selves Ian are not hateful, judgemental, selfish, fearful, they see and understand. EG if we all went out to a pub, and some one was swearing at us, calling us wankers, you would want to hit him, swear back, however if I walked in and said his mentally disabled, suddenly your views change, why? because you have understanding to his actions. God, does exist, I see God as mother and father, treat them as such too. I have let go of all hate, an forgiven all from my past threw my heart, no hate, if you don't hate you have no fear, I try look from gods perspective of understanding. I understand a man whom wants to do good by his family and buys a business wants it to succeed becomes a mason, or it wouldn't survive, not saying this is wrong. But the guy should also admit he had to become apart of evil that rule so he could survive in his goals. I would never become a mason, and can also say admit if god came to change this world, he would be a mason, then speak the truth of them threw the inside to change the world for the better. I have seen first hand experience of corrupt police, government, social services! Seen he new world order fake terrorism used to take over countries I was told about 10 years ago! Seen people do evil and get away with it, if you guys were Rotschilds, you would use your powers to keep your children protected from the law yes, but wouldn't you also say only because you can protect one from the law doesn't mean you intentionally do bad just because you can get away with it? [/quote] [/quote]
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