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madjim	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 20:20
	clamp off each flexi pipe in turn or in pairs then pump the pedal when it goes hard the fault, should be with what ever comes after the flexi or sometimes the flexi itself
Kano	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 19:32
	More than likely just needing bled mate.. Wouldn't go replacing the master cylinder till you've given bleeding them a bash..
Dave A	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 18:19
	quote: Originally posted by chris_uk come to move the car this afternoon, and i tried braking and the pedal was just soft :s if i pump it up it does get slightly tighter then it just goes loose again, it does stop the car just but the brake pedal is at the floor. if thats happeneing then fluid is getting past the MC seals or out to atmosphere via a leak.
johnhara1	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 16:12
	The pedal should get v hard with the ignition off and once the ignition is on the servo will assist making the pedal softer. pull your rear drums off and check the cylinders arent leaking if you pull the rubber back.
chris_uk	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 15:59
	no leaks as i put something down and no drips or anything, topped up the level and with the ignition off it stays soft.
johnhara1	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 15:37
	if you pump the pedal with the ignition off is the pedal solid or still v soft? Have you checked the fluid level? Get a m8 to pump the pedal and look underneath the car for leaks at the rear drums, split pipe etc etc
chris_uk	posted on 1st Mar 07 at 15:24
	come to move the car this afternoon, and i tried braking and the pedal was just soft :s if i pump it up it does get slightly tighter then it just goes loose again, it does stop the car just but the brake pedal is at the floor. i thougth it could be the seals in the master cylinder thats gone, but does anyone have anyother ideas?