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Author Whats the handling like when you have a 2.0 16v?
Geeza10328
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25th Aug 03 at 15:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've just been talking to some old m8s of mine who have said that the handling on 2.0 16v are shit. They were comparing it with a modded gsi, which is bound to have better handling since it is lighter but they did say at high speed if u want to through a 2.0 into a corner it just wudn't turn but just slide forward. Is this true?

I'm thinkin about a conversion.....but I want speed as well as handling. Would a 1.6 16v on throttle bodies and a few other engine mods be a better all round conversion than a 2.0 16v?

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if u just chuck a 2.0 in then yes handling will be crap as u have a more heavy front end, thats why u get suspension/brakes etc upgraded and set up then u will have no problems. ur m8 probably had a crap set up
M4tt
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would FK coilovers work well with a 2.0 lump in a corsa?

because they are less than 400 and seem a bit of a bargain to me
stuyw
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ive got them on mine adj on front and rear n they work really well
Fad
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i upgraded from a 1.4 16v to a 2 ltr and the handlin didn't change at all and i am running Koni ajustable dampers and eibach springs
Adam-D
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25th Aug 03 at 18:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does that handle well?
what susp drop have u had?
miles
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25th Aug 03 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A 1.6 16v on tb's and a few extra bits will be just as quick as a standard 2.0 16v.
and-m
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25th Aug 03 at 19:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yep but the engines going to cost over 2 grand...
miles
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yeah, he didn't mention cost.
luca2020
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well if u go the 1.6 tuning route, its lighter so better handleing, BUT, theires alot less tourqe, costs more

2.0 16v conversion, heavier so poorer handleing, but has more tourqe and costs less

just depends on what u wanna do with it, u can oviously tune a 2.0 16v for little money to over 200bhp (compared to the same modds on a 1.6) so straight line racing it will be very quick

but if u want it for proper racing, round corners etc then 1.6, tho theirs no reason why a 2.0 cant handle as well as a 1.6, u just have to speed money on gettng the correct set up

also as said about FK coilovers, dont get the highsport ones, they will be way to soft, get their koining (sp) ones, adjustable shocks, much better
miles
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There is a reason why a 2.0 cant handle as well as a 1.6. The 2.0 is always going to be heavier for the same work. Its physics.
Adam_B
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Think mine handles pretty good, FKs, front and rear strut braces, yokos and no rear seats.
tonydry
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thay do a wide track kit for novas that brings the track out by 50mm dont no if thay do 1 for the corsa but worth a look will handle miles better plus can get hubs macined so u can run astra drive shafts
Screaming Vtec
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How much heavier are we talking anyway? I bet theres not *that* much in it..

Playing around with the antiroll bars/suspension should sort out the understeer..

miles
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Talking about 50ish kg more. Its the position of the weight so far forward that causes problems.
Bart
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heres a good questions...

my sri is lowered 60mm all round and at the mo it rubs a bit on the back (17's) and the arches cannot be modded anymore.
IF i was to get a 2L conversion would i have to raise the car slightly cos of a heavier engine?
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on the front, yes, get heavier poundage springs wit hthe same drop and these will work out the same

rear might be affected a little, but the weight will be over the front end

try sitting on the bonnet and see
M4tt
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the 2.0 would probablt push the nose down a bit unless you get stiffer spings i believe...
Bart
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they are pretty stiff.. no bounce in them at all!
Dan_R666
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Adam who done your conversion? I fancy a conversion but not alot of places in Aberdeen will touch it!
OzzySRi
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Talking about 50ish kg more. Its the position of the weight so far forward that causes problems.


mmm this has me thinking whether they'd handle like a lead tipped arrow. 50ish kg = a middle sized person sitting on the bonnet.
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by tonydry
thay do a wide track kit for novas that brings the track out by 50mm dont no if thay do 1 for the corsa but worth a look will handle miles better plus can get hubs macined so u can run astra drive shafts


thats probably using corsa parts cos corsas have a wider track anyway.
Dan_R666
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are the montrose?
MikeH
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Can't you get a 1.8 engine to go into the corsa? Would that be easier to fit and a little lighter?
Kris TD
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based on the engine, cant imagine it being any lighter

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