Donna Corsa GSi
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speak to daimo b about it, he bought one and found out all about it.
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corsa_dale
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the fact is i always seem to get stupid answers from people,im only asking a question bout Corsa's so i always think y shud i bother?
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Patrick
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Don't bother then 
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Donna Corsa GSi
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Maybe you should try posting in help and mods, cause people that use that forum use it the help and get help 
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corsa_dale
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can this topic be moved into their then?
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Donna Corsa GSi
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You will have to ask a moderator.
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corsa_dale
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who do i ask?
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Patrick
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Go to the index page and u2u anyone who's name is highlighted in black. 
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Cybermonkey
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That is an X16XEL from Astra mk3. its different from the corsa 1.6 engines.
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Daimo B
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As Cyber said above. IT is an X16XEL engine. It produces 100bhp, but, it gives more torque at a lower rpm compared to the X16XE.
I can't see how a mantel box wouldn't fit it though as its still gonna be pretty much the same inlet manifold below the top one. May need a little work though.
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mav
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa_dale
thanks mav at least su9m1 can answer the wuestion and not go on bout different things
nae bother m8..
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Cybermonkey
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Im not so sure an inlet manifold will fit the XEL from an XE designed unit. The XEL has reduced power because of its inlet manifold design. In the heavier Astra too, the car struggles to keep up with my Corsa, since my mate has the XEL unit in his mk4 SXi
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miles
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
Well put it this way,
With the C16XE engine, Donna has 161bhp @ 7500rpm.
Mods
Mantzel inlet manifold. Lexmaul 4-2-1 Exhaust manifold. Cat back exhaust, Ind kit, Superchip, errrr. thats it.
Car was RR at 114bhp with ind kit and Cat back exhaust b4 mods and on the same RR.
U dont get that much torque from it, but then ur never gonna get a good amont from the 1600 engine. Even Andys H 214bhp 1.6 16v only has 145lb ft. Standard 2.0litre torque.
I think I've said this before but......
The rollers must read very high!
I've got 164bhp on some realistic rollers, with 130lb/ft.
C16XE, throttle bodies, dta, piper cams, verniers, ported head.....
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miles
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The inlet manifold must fit else courtenay wouldn't have offered to fit it for him.
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miles
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Oh, and how much did courtenay charge?
Id be pissed off i had been told it was the c16xe and it was xel.
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corsa_dale
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£700 thats including fitting
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miles
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you paid £700 for a 1.6 16v engine, box, etc, every thing inc fitting?
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corsa_dale
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no jst over £2 grand coz i had to have uprated brakes which were the vectra v6 brakes wit calipers
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Greasemonkey
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I fitted my own mantzel power box it was dead easy only took a day dont pay courtney they suck, i got the power box off them it took 2 weeks to get all the parts they sent an incomplete kit then sent the rest of the bits minus a few others chimps
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Patrick
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
you paid £700 for a 1.6 16v engine, box, etc, every thing inc fitting?
I was about to say fuck off would Courtenay do a 1.6 16v conversion for £700 fully fitted. 
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
I think I've said this before but......
The rollers must read very high!
And i've explained before to you also.
Remus Exhaust = 109bhp (standard), superb power curve!
New exhaust, induction kit = 114bhp (different RR)< the Mantzel one
SAME RR, after mods = 161bhp @ 7500rpm
There is also a nova, currently for sale, Very similar spec, on the C16XE engine, that has 154bhp.
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Andy
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My previous mods: Gas-flowed and ported head, raised compression and rev limit, sbd manifold and straight through exhaust system, lumpy cams, mantzel powerbox all mapped with a Unichip ECU - 153bhp and 127lb/ft of torque
Have to agree with Miles that 161bhp seems a tad optimistic, especially when a full TB kit only just produces over 160bhp
[Edited on 31-07-2003 by Andy]
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Daimo B
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Well, andy, i know what your saying and im optimistic about the results also. But we worked out and the worst is could be is 155bhp ((there was a method of working it out, but i've forgotten it now).
Don Fulfords Corsa GSi, Running on Manztel box, same superchip (was the earlier C16XE also, i still believe its the better for tuning). Only difference was it had Cams and that had 145bhp @ the wheels!!!!
Dons only got 117lb ft of torque though also!!
And, i have to say, when running, from say 40-100mph her car really isn't much slower than my 2.0litre. Its when we get up to about 100mph that my car carries on and hers doesn't pickup the speed as well.
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Andy
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The C16XE is slightly better for tuning, although I had the exhaust ports machined out on my X16XE, which makes the head pretty similar to a C16XE. 117lb/ft of torque seems a bit low, but then there's obviously a good spread of it. I'm sure it's kicking out over 150bhp, but over 160 would be amazing.
Don's 145bhp at wheels equates to getting on for 180bhp at the fly - that I absolutely don't believe!
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Daimo B
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nahh, i think it was running about 165 at the fly, he had 15"s when the power run was recorded. However, spoken to him this year, and i think he's going the TB route. He's one fo them people that has spent bloody ages taking his car apart and building it. Spent 6months making a complete original shaped carbon fibre dash. He knows he nuts
YEah as i say, at worst we cou,ld work out was 155bhp, so might be about that.
But tbh, shes not arsed anyway, it goes alright so shes happy with it
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