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Originally posted by R17CH U
Adam is not to blame for his engine being worn out if only we could write the truth without looking like we are causing trouble
I fear you have not seen teh way he (other drive it based on Adams driving of it) drives it 
[Edited on 17-06-2003 by vibrio]
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
ach..... im too easy going....
I think my engine is funny 
plu sim not wanting to get into arguments with PVD/Cossvaux etc etc....
There were alot of factors in the equation.... the car makes me smile.... and it was going to get rebuilt anyway....
a few things did annoy me tho... small things like slipping clutch and wheel bearings..... spoke to Will about this etc etc...
ach.... shit happens 
cars still quicker than most even tho its a 20 a day smoker
I'm not saying anything about a merc SLK and 135mph
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vibrio
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but it was to be expected from the man that does burn outs in Edinburgh city center
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Scott
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i cant understand how people are telling andy it can be doen fro 1500,1600
there is no way any place wouild do all this for that price, he woudlnt even get hald the parts for that
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BeArDy
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2lt 16v Supplyed and fitted - 1600
V6 Brakes (NEW Off Mig) - 200
Billet 2.0 suspension - £450
Total 2250
which leaves u 2045.50
i know what i would go for..........
also m8ty 4292 is prob more then your car is worth, and i know if i had spend 4k on getting a 2lt i wouldent be happy, as its far to much, they are not that fast, and defo not worth 4k+ for one...........
sell yours for 4k'ish put the 4k your was going to spend on the engine and buy somthing else, you could get a 350bhp cossie and ins it for 8k.
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Andy Morley
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Originally posted by lee mitchell
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Originally posted by Jambo
£4k is exessive LM will do it for around £1600
obviously not a quality job that will last a long time
that is such a w4nk comment. have u even seen my work 
what i meant is that it would not be of the cossvaux conversion quality because you will not be replacing all the stuff that they are. i expect your conversions are of good quality and i didnt mean to slag you off or owt
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BeArDy
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Originally posted by Andy Morley
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Originally posted by lee mitchell
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Originally posted by Jambo
£4k is exessive LM will do it for around £1600
obviously not a quality job that will last a long time
that is such a w4nk comment. have u even seen my work
what i meant is that it would not be of the cossvaux conversion quality because you will not be replacing all the stuff that they are. i expect your conversions are of good quality and i didnt mean to slag you off or owt
lee will repalce anything u want aslong as your paying and i bet would still work out cheaper
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Andy Morley
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Originally posted by R17CH U
I'm so fed up with hearing that we are expensive! Kris TD 288mm discs come from late calibra turbos and vectra v6, 284mm discs come from cav and calibra turbos. as for Adams engine PVD supplied a cav gsi and charged Adam around £800 . the car was bought damaged for £400 so our solictors will be in touch with you for that comment pending your withdrawl of that comment. We know who Lee Mitchell is and have seen his work and is as far as i can see very good. when a customer wants a conversion we taylor it to what they ask for , but if they want 3.5k worth of parts it makes the conversion look expensive. our engines we supply for £700 have covered no more than 60k we can supply higher millage engines for less money but when a customer asks for low miles what can we do. as for puting new oil pumps and water pumps on the engine this is because while we have the engine in bits putting arp rod bolts sump gaskets and cam belt and rollers we may as well put the other parts in while we are there. Sorry we tried to save money on labour for customers . if we new people felt so strongly about this we would not of offered it
here here mate, i dont think it is expensive really. went upto your place and went throught it all with will and realise why it will be a good job with good parts. people e.g. beardy, are sayin 2-2.5k but did they include a painted rocker, dress kit, new black diamond clutch, rod bolts, and tbh it would be a low milage engine which aint been trashed to fuck, dont peaople know a good price when they see it. also to all the people goin on about sorcin parts and getting everything myself, well 1 of the reasons is cos im too busy workin to do stuff like that and i can drive my car to cossvaux and have it all done in around a day then drive back out
btw rich, saw ya have some good runs on sunday, not bad for a 130k engine
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BeArDy
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Bottom line is u pay for a Name like with anything, there is really only one way to fit a 2lt, no matter who fits it.
example (fit 2lt 16v)
crossvaux - 2.5k
Courtny - 3.9k
regal - 3k
random person - 1600
all same job all getting same thing but u pay for name
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Andy Morley
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Originally posted by BeArDy
Bottom line is u pay for a Name like with anything, there is really only one way to fit a 2lt, no matter who fits it.
example (fit 2lt 16v)
crossvaux - 2.5k
Courtny - 3.9k
regal - 3k
random person - 1600
all same job all getting same thing but u pay for name
what is included in that 1600
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Andy Morley
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Bottom line is u pay for a Name like with anything, there is really only one way to fit a 2lt, no matter who fits it.
example (fit 2lt 16v)
crossvaux - 2.5k
Courtny - 3.9k
regal - 3k
random person - 1600
all same job all getting same thing but u pay for name
what is included in that 1600
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Andy Stocker
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At a guess, engine, mounts, fitting kit etc
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BeArDy
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engine, fittin kit, GTE brakes and fittin
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Andy Stocker
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I drove Adams car very well on theway to Crail
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Andy Morley
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Originally posted by BeArDy
engine, fittin kit, GTE brakes and fittin
fair enough, but that is worth 1600
what about the other essensials such as
gear linkage
fuel pump
exhaust connecter
cam belt
water pump
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lee mitchell
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beardy doesnt extend his linkage. i do on mine thou and thats included. exhaust would be done to. as for water pump, cambelt and fuel pump. that would be extra. bout £120 in parts id say and bout £30 fitting.
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beattie17
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy Morley
......the engine conversion, which includes: -
C20XE with gear box, loom, ecu etc
Conversion kit inc power cap
288mm 4 stud V6 brakes
Billet 2.0 suspension
Silocon hose kit
Painted rocker, cam cover & power cap
Chrome dress kit
Exhaust conversion
BTB manifold
Boost valve
Fuel pump
Gear Linkage
Servo pipe
Piper 270 cams
Cam belt, seals, tensioner & roller
Water pump
Oil pump
Sump gaskets
Dip stick gasket
Breather pipeSpark plugs - gold paladium
Rod bolts
Black diamond clutch
Rear main seal
Oil pump gasket
Oil pump seal
All fitted for £4292.50
Deffo want it done now just need to save. So what ya all think 
Andy
lee what price could u do everything they're for?
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Andy Morley
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ive already asked him and he said he will be a few days getting the price together
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beattie17
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ok cool. hey what all got painted after u got everything flushed in
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Kris TD
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Originally posted by R17CH U
kris td ref Adams engine
this is what one of your colleges told me when i visited your workshop.
as for the brakes, i can happily show you the part numbers from vaux which clearly show the turbo calibras being 288mm and the v6 vectra and v6 cally being 284mm.
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tomcorsa
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lee mitchell all the way fadz and daimoz r mint jobs
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BarryAstra
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Ive heard loads of good stuff bout Lee & im seriously thinking bout gettin him to put a 2.0 in my astra l8r in the year! 
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CORSA NUT
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Kinell just read all this!!
If you want to do it mate go for it as your car does look nice and a 2L would only make it better!
If it was me then i would sell the corsa and use the cash plus the 4K and get a newer faster car but then that's not very individual is it??
It sounds a good deal to me but maybe you should get a LET??
Cossvaux have you done a conversion on a MK4 Astra yet??? New engine or otherwise??
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CORSA NUT
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Sounds to me like Lee Mitchell should be working for Cossvaux
But then again he probably has a really good job by the sounds of his skills..?
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Scott
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yeah they have m8 , runnign about 325bhp
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