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deano87
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22nd Jul 15 at 13:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Car (1.4 16v Fiesta Duratec) has been suffering from what feels like a miss-fire on the odd occasion. Forums say this is coil pack. I've been putting up with it as there are no other symptoms, no EML and a blip of the throttle sorts it.

EML came on about 2 months ago. This was after some serious stuttering. Showed Bank 1 Position 1 Oxygen sensor. Cleared the faults with my mates OBDII and didn't come back on.

In town earlier today in Tesco's car park, EML has come on. No other symptoms, no stuttering etc.

Wouldn't be a problem, other than I have a 200 mile round trip Saturday - Monday for a friends wedding where I'm an Usher.

Going to try and use my mates OBDII thing again to clear the faults but reckon if it is nothing major and the clear fine, I should just drive it as normal and not worry?



[Edited on 22-07-2015 by deano87]
Ellis
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22nd Jul 15 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You can clear the fault codes but that won't remedy the issue if there is an underlying problem.

Hard to say whether it would be OK for lengthy drive without knowing what fault code is present.

If it was a lambda fault again I would be happy enough to drive it and accept the slightly poorer fuel economy. Something like a lambda sensor could be easily replaced before the weekend if you diagnose it quickly.
DaveyLC
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I'm afraid you're going to have to scrap it.
deano87
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antnee
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
I'm afraid you're going to have to scrap it.

And get a new car on lease.
deano87
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
I'm afraid you're going to have to scrap it.

And get a new car on lease.

https://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/Ford_Fiesta-1-0-ecoboost-125ps-zetec-s-3-door-60063.htm

taylorboosh
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Yes as above
Ben G
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My EML came on 300 miles into a 420 mile drive. Shit me right up at it was 2am and I was on a completely empty. Pitch black motorway.

The car has no issues and was running fine, so I pulled into the next service station, let the car cool down then continued for the next 100 miles with my bumhole clenched tightly!

The next day the light went off on it's own. Been fine ever since.

I did have a look on a code reader and I had a dodgy sensor, so changed that aswell as the coilpacks.
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22nd Jul 15 at 17:14   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Eh? If my EML comes on and I'm still driving I shrug and go ohh look another dash light to add to the collection. As I say to everyone, if it's orange crack on
deano87
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Mates 3 eBay Bluetooth reader doesn't work

Clenchy bum time for 5 days
AndyCorsaSport
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Mines been on for last 6 month. As was previous car on from day one. If it's driving fine. It'll be reet.
VegasPhil
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Bloody hell its an EML not an ejector seat warning.

Just keep driving and get the fault resolved in the near future.


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deano87
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22nd Jul 15 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So you can do a dash fault thing (which apparently doesn't actually tell you fault codes for the engine) by pressing the trip computer button and turning on the ignition. So, ready...

...test
gage
bulb
A 0000
nr0850
EE 85 FAIL
CF180
CF200
CF300
dtc none
E0000
S60130
t0000
t60044
F1183 (then flickered between 84 and 82)
FP1086 (then flickered between 86)
FPT077
F60004
003C
C6001
odo000
trn --
1ud00
bat118
bf-0
hb-6
SLP-0
LC0010
cr-0
ac-0
PO-00
P2-19
P6-29
Ad0151 (then flickered 52)
Ad1109
Ad2255
Ad4255



Either there is a shite load wrong or Fiesta's are more complex than I thought!

AndyCorsaSport
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Mines a fiesta. 1.6 zetec s 2005. eml was on for 6 month for a lambda sensor. Was fine. Shit on fuel. But fine.
deano87
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Mines been shit on fuel for sometime. Well, worse than it used to be, say fill up 40 miles before I used to.

Could be it.
AndyCorsaSport
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Mine was doing 28mpg. Upto 34/35 now it's sorted.
deano87
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Ford friend stuck it on diagnostics. Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 Position 1. His official word in Ford overalls, don't drive it. His word as a friend. Be alright, sort it when back from the wedding

Looking on ECP though, got an FAE part for 31. How does FAE rate over Bosch or NGK?
DaveyLC
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Have you tried an Italian tune up? That can fixed Lambda issues.
deano87
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Rag the arse of her? Might try on way home
DaveyLC
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Drive it like you stole it.. if that doesn't work: scrap yard.
Y869 SRA
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Had the EML come on on every car I've had.
Never caused any problems with anything.
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
Ford friend stuck it on diagnostics. Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 Position 1. His official word in Ford overalls, don't drive it. His word as a friend. Be alright, sort it when back from the wedding

Looking on ECP though, got an FAE part for 31. How does FAE rate over Bosch or NGK?


How much is the bosch one? I went for oem on a CPS sensor as aftermarket sensors didn't get good reviews online. Not worth scrimping on engine stuff.
Neo
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23rd Jul 15 at 15:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

EML has been on on mine since Feb Dont stress Dean
deano87
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Well. Drove home. Still on. Filled up at Sainsbury's. Off and stayed off

Bosch one is double the price of the FAE. FAE is supposed to be OEM.

[Edited on 23-07-2015 by deano87]
AndyCorsaSport
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Mine was 50 odd from euro car parts. Duno what make it is like. Can't remember.

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