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Tommy
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14th May 03 at 09:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Coz IMO he is better than Zidane, coz Zidane isnt the player he used to be.
elfunkyo
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14th May 03 at 09:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fair enough, I think we should just agree to disagree mate
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on there day most top players are unbeliveable. theres not much between top players nowerdays. people in england only see Zidanes good games they see beckham week in and week out play and see his mistakes as well.
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14th May 03 at 23:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
Beckham, Rooney, are all overated becuase they are english do you honestly think they would get first team football at some of the top euporan clubs even Robert Calros said he doubt Beckham would be picked over Figo


HAVE U EVER PLAYED WITH ROONEY? NO. i HAVE AND I SHIT U NOT THERE. IM TELLIN U HE IS SOMETHIN ELSE
Nath
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English players are not overrated, they dont go abroad as their footballing style doesnt suit the way they play abroad. Beckham is one of the most valuable players in the world. Figo and co are all overrated as they lack passion and commitment. If Real were 1-0 down with a minute to go they'd have given up, i.e. Tonights game agaisnt Juve. Ronaldo, Carlos, Raul, and Figo couldnt be fcuked after 89mins even though they only need one goal. They may well have been tired but they r pro's and should strive to help their team succeed.

Best in Britain - Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Best in World - Ronaldo even though he has a tendancy to slack at times. Cant fault his finishing though.

Oh yeah and Zidane...................Overrated and past it. He did NOTHING in last years world cup and this season for Real he has hardly been inspiring. He just lives off his name and reputation as does half of the Real team.

Sorry about that rant but i had to say it
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
If your doing a dream team got to have
GK - C. Cudicini
LB -
RB - L. Thuram (only becuase I don't think there is anyone else good in this postion in the world)
CB -
CB - A. Nesta
RM - L. Figo
LM - Rivaldo
CM - Z. Zidane
CM - P. Veria
SC - A. Shevchenko
SC - G. Raul

Stuck on a Left Back and other centre back


LB - Zambrotta or Lizarazu
CB - Hyppia or Maldini or Cannavaro
DaveyRaveyGravy
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im sorry nath mate but i just dont agree with ya ZZ comment. wen he plays, he is out of this world
Nath
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You said it mate, 'when' he plays. He isnt consistent enough. You only see the skills and good goals. You watch him closely he fcuks up quite a bit i think you'll find. Theres no doubt he's good but no where near as good as he is made out to be.

The truely great players of today are - Henry, Rivaldo, Totti, Shevchenko, Ruud, Ronaldo, Pires, Del Piero, Raul, Maldini, Carlos, Beckham, Thuram, Canizares, and probably more but i cant think.


[Edited on 14-05-2003 by Nath]
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
If your doing a dream team got to have
GK - C. Cudicini
LB -
RB - L. Thuram (only becuase I don't think there is anyone else good in this postion in the world)
CB -
CB - A. Nesta
RM - L. Figo
LM - Rivaldo
CM - Z. Zidane
CM - P. Veria
SC - A. Shevchenko
SC - G. Raul

Stuck on a Left Back and other centre back


A WORLD CLASS RB? WOT BOUT GOOD OL' TONY HIBBERT!! LEGEND!!
Nath
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Hes right about the RB position. Bit short of good players there.
DaveyRaveyGravy
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14th May 03 at 23:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i dnt no wot all the hype bout beckham is. all he can do is take set pieces and play long balls
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quote:
Originally posted by Geezer
on there day most top players are unbeliveable. theres not much between top players nowerdays. people in england only see Zidanes good games they see beckham week in and week out play and see his mistakes as well.


An excellent point I think. Zidane and Beckham are both excellent players but they're different

General Skill - Zidane is better I think. More tricks. Can go past a player easier
Pace - Both hardly the fastest
Shooting ability - Possibly Beckham shades this
Volleying - Zidane
Heading - Both equal really
Short passing - Zidane
Long Passing - Beckham
Crossing - Beckham
Dead Ball situations - Need I say. Beckham is the best in the world I think

Anyone sad enough to get the stats off CM4.

Best player in the world I think is Raul. Although Ruud and Henry are class players I feel in the Real side both of these too would be as good as Raul.

Btw I support Man U so my opinions are likely to be biased.

[Edited on 14-05-2003 by Kieran McMutrie]
Nath
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GK - Canizares
LB - Carlos
RB - Thuruam
CB - Maldini
CB - Nesta
RM - Beckham
LM - Pires
CM - Viera
CM - Raul (attacking midfield behind strikers)
CF - Nistelrooy
CF - Henry

Manager - ME
Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyRaveyGravy
i dnt no wot all the hype bout beckham is. all he can do is take set pieces and play long balls


Try hitting a 65 yard ball to someones feet without them having to adjust their stride to compensate for error

Name one other player in the world who can take free kicks as good as Beckham

I'm fed up of England haters!!! What is it with the press and some fans in this country?? People hype England up and say they r gonna win everything and when they dont they get slated for it. England are by no means the best team in the world and we proabably wont win a tournament anytime soon but that doesnt mean i think all our players are shit!
DaveyRaveyGravy
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14th May 03 at 23:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

HERE IS A QUESTION 4 YA'S

WHO IS THE GREATEST GOALKEEPER OF ALL TIME?

NEVILLE SOUTHALL WITHOUT A SHADOW
Nath
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Of all time? Shilton unquestionably
Nath
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Or schemiecal(sp)
DaveyRaveyGravy
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schemiechal is a close second but BIG NEV OMG. i can relete to it bein a keeper meself coz its not just the saves, its a hell of alot more
Nath
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He has been going for 25+ years now too, gotta admire him for that. You cant not say Shilton in at least ur top5 though.
Nath
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I'm a Luton fan so in no way am i biast, i mean how could i be biast

Unless they played for Watford, in that case they should be excluded from football and sent to a mental insitution for examination as they must be dillusional

[Edited on 14-05-2003 by Nath]
DaveyRaveyGravy
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lol or a liverpool fan with there keeper jerzy " dodgy cnut" dudek
Icy
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15th May 03 at 00:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

me hates footie
Nath
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Footie is like a drug!! Terribley addictive.
DaveyRaveyGravy
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indeed
Icy
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luv playin ISS tho but hate football

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