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Anyway back on topic.
You have to be a little simple to think a 20 year old corsa is worth much more than 300 quid.
Why would it be? it's not rare because its exclusive, its rare because everyone else has thrown them on the skip, there's a massive difference.
You may find the odd example that has gone for more because someone really wants one, but on the whole they aren't worth much, rare or not.
Was talking about this in work last night.
My mate bought an audi quattro for £250 15 years ago. He showed me a shithole one on ebay that was going for £7500 that still had 5 days left on the auction.
Same with mk1 escorts.
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Of course. I'm not an idiot I realise some older cars have value or increase in value. A 1.4 corsa b isn't one of them.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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Ben G
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Whilst I agree, who dictates what they're worth? Buyers?
A 1.3 escort isn't cool nor fast, but they're worth an absolute fortune.
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Very stylish and modern looking still
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Corsa B doesn't even look like it's an old car.
Don't get me wrong, I still have a soft spot for the Corsa B but I disagree completely with both statements.
This  Thread was going well until I read that.
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Anyway back on topic.
You have to be a little simple to think a 20 year old corsa is worth much more than 300 quid.
Why would it be? it's not rare because its exclusive, its rare because everyone else has thrown them on the skip, there's a massive difference.
You may find the odd example that has gone for more because someone really wants one, but on the whole they aren't worth much, rare or not.
Was talking about this in work last night.
My mate bought an audi quattro for £250 15 years ago. He showed me a shithole one on ebay that was going for £7500 that still had 5 days left on the auction.
Same with mk1 escorts.
Not quite the same, but a few years back (due to a TG episode) I was looking at Alfa 147 3.2 GTA's. They look great, go well and sound the berries! Back then they were going for about £2500-3000. Saw and heard a beautiful one the other day and decided to look them up. Couldn't find one for under £5500 The car market is completely unpredictable.
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Ben G
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It is the same though. It's a shonky old motor that wouldn't be worth scrap value years ago. Now there is a market for them.
147 gta's are indeed awesome.
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Its not the same.
A mk2 Escort had a massive cult following, mainly because its shape lent itself to a huge coolness factor of its Rallying version.
An Alfa is always considered a cool drivers car has a large following, and as Eck pointed out were quite quick and sound cool.
An Audi Quattro, like the Escort generated a following due to the Group B rallying.
Where does a 1.4 corsa b fit into this? why would anyone care about it? quick? no? exciting no? WRC homologated fire breathing version? no, used by nans to go shopping? yes.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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Ian W
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Whilst I agree, who dictates what they're worth? Buyers?
A 1.3 escort isn't cool nor fast, but they're worth an absolute fortune.
Exactly, I am sure in 1985 when Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts where just seen as old and rusty there where worth nothing.
Now, a tidy 4 door 1.3 Escort Mk2 would be worth decent money just because it is old - they are slow as shit, don't handle well and have no redeeming features so why are they not worth £300?
I still don't think old Corsa's are worth mega money but Steve's statement that they are nothing special so aren't worth a button doesn't hold up IMO.
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Whilst I agree, who dictates what they're worth? Buyers?
A 1.3 escort isn't cool nor fast, but they're worth an absolute fortune.
exaxtly Gilbert. Buyers are dictating the price of corsa a going up. Not Steve from the Internet.
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Ian
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Of course. I'm not an idiot I realise some older cars have value or increase in value. A 1.4 corsa b isn't one of them.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
Didn't we already have this conversation when I showed you some Novas.
Find me a Nova for 300 quid. I'll even allow a 4 speed.
I've got the rose tints on but they all go up.
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Now, a tidy 4 door 1.3 Escort Mk2 would be worth decent money just because it is old
Its not just because they're old at all, its because everyone loves that shape now due to the classic Rally versions.
Plus old fords generally have a massive following.
Some of the special Vauxhalls do to. But not a 1.4 Corsa.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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I guess its all just arguing on the internet and noone will be proven right or wrong until 1.4 corsas are regularly fetching 1k+, or aren't.
I do think though, if you have a modicum of intelligence you can probably see why a 1.4 corsa is never going to be a classic hit demanding a premium.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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Ian
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Are Novas doing a grand now? Even shit ones?
You going to tell me Novas are so different from Corsas now?
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are you selective in your picking of threads to troll Steve? Basing it around potential popularity with people replying so it looks like you have friends when that email from corsa sport comes into your hotmail inbox?
point I made proven
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Are Novas doing a grand now? Even shit ones?
You going to tell me Novas are so different from Corsas now?
Yes they are, ok mechanically very similar, but the Corsa was basically just hopping onto the back of the Novas reputation, which was the original Vauxhall classic boy racer car of the 80s/90s. Which is part of the reason why people don't care so much about Corsas now. Not to mention the looks, the Nova sporting a harder cooler look, while the Corsa represents by all accounts a girls car. People even called them girls cars when I was modding mine.
They just don't have the same cult classic appeal, and I dont think they ever will.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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On the subject of MK I & II Escorts being unobtainable by mortal man these days, it would appear that the same rule applies to little ones too!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-18-Sunstar-Mk2-Escort-1975-Barry-Lee-spedeworth-classic-hotrod-oval-Modified-/281713485859?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=DfhR97sLS0DcKMDhNjxID0JJmYA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
The fella that builds and sells these is also selling the Goony Bus.
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This one will no doubt go for a pretty penny too...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-18-sunstar-Mk2-Escort-Mexico-RS-modified-classic-BDA-rally-40th-anniversary-/281720948806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4197e08846
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Why do you think a 92 Nova will fetch 1k but a 93 Corsa will just get thrown on the heap.
Corsa's are older enough now to show signs of increasing in value, but its not happening. GSI's maybe, but not 1.4 run of the mills. Apart from the odd person that really wants one.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
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We'd be having this conversation about a 1.4sr Nova 10 years ago, and I bet you'd struggle to find one now.
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Ben G
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Steve, you're completely missing the point.
Plenty of people were rallying mk1 escorts back when mk1 escorts were being made, yet many owners ran them into the ground and scrapped them.
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Ben G
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Its not the same.
A mk2 Escort had a massive cult following, mainly because its shape lent itself to a huge coolness factor of its Rallying version.
An Alfa is always considered a cool drivers car has a large following, and as Eck pointed out were quite quick and sound cool.
An Audi Quattro, like the Escort generated a following due to the Group B rallying.
Where does a 1.4 corsa b fit into this? why would anyone care about it? quick? no? exciting no? WRC homologated fire breathing version? no, used by nans to go shopping? yes.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Steve]
1.3 escort. Quick? No, exciting? No, WRC homologated fire breathing version, yes, but we're talking abot a 1.3 escort so that means nothing. Used by nans to go shopping? Yes, very much so.
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Ian
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Suppose it remains to be seen. Personally I don't think the fact that one's a classic hot hatch 90s car and the other is for girls has any real substance.
[Edited on 16-06-2015 by Ian]
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Lol I was just wondering if it was rare not how much I could get for it lol
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Ben G
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It's not a pokemon shiny mate.
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SVM 286
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A what Ben? 
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