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jamjar15
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Recieved a cheque from the dvla back in april after I sold my corsa with a note saying it was for a tax refund, so as it was the first car I sold after the new system I figured sounds about right and cashed it as normal.

Now I recieved a letter today saying they sent it in error and can I pay it back in 7 days or they MAY take legal action.

from the sounds of it, it seems like its their mistake and are just hoping I pay them back as its not my fault, or am I in the wrong?
Mike
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15th Jun 15 at 11:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do you know how much tax was left when you sold it?

Sent in error could mean you either weren't due a refund, if there was less than a full month left, or it was for the wrong amount. That's the first thing to try and work out. Obviously you don't want to be giving them your money if they've in fact sent the letter 'in error'.
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Yeah think there was only about two months left, so I was due a refund but not sure how much, they gave me 79.85), was a 1998 1.0 12v btw
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Do they send these automatically?
Generation
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80 for two months remaining on a 1.0 is obviously wrong

[Edited on 15-06-2015 by Generation]
DaveyLC
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Were any of the letters sent by recorded delivery? If NOT Cash it.. See what happens..
jamjar15
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Yeah I only paid about 126 a year iirc so 80 seems a really random number, wasnt sent recorded, cashed it back about two months ago, are they expecting me to pay it back out of the goodness of my heart or am I legally bound to do so?
DaveyLC
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I doubt they can do fuck all legally..
Generation
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Can only pay in, not cash it.
Soon as ifs in there it can be identified by its serial number. As you can only payninto account holders bank, there's no denying that you've had it
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Think I got around 60 back after Sorning my 1999 206 GTi 138. Had 4 months tax left on.
jamjar15
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If they ask im not going to deny I had the money, just not really in a position to be giving money away if theres no consequences
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by jamjar15
If they ask im not going to deny I had the money, just not really in a position to be giving money away if theres no consequences


You're better off denying knowing anything about it other than receiving a cheque which you promptly cashed.
Ben G
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15th Jun 15 at 14:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Who's to say you actually received the letter asking for the money back?

80 for two months tax is clearly wrong, so why didn't you query it at the time?
jamjar15
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Didnt promptly cash it, waited 3 weeks for them to realise as i figured thats a fair amount of time, didnt think to wait 3 months lol
Ben G
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Do you not own a phone?
Generation
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Ffs YOU CAN'T CASH IT. It gets pid into your account and it has to be cleared. Can only cash YOUR OWN cheques, or some given with special information and if bank holds a credit open facility


Fkin retarded denying you've had it.. It's clear to them you have



[Edited on 15-06-2015 by Generation]
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15th Jun 15 at 16:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What legal action are they ever going to bother taking over 80 quid
jamjar15
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Calm down Generation u understand what we mean by cash it in so whats the problem, also never said I was going to deny it
jamjar15
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Yeah thats what I was thinking steve, plus the fact that they said 'may' from the founds of it I think ill just call there bluff

[Edited on 15-06-2015 by jamjar15]
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Can only pay in, not cash it.
Soon as ifs in there it can be identified by its serial number. As you can only payninto account holders bank, there's no denying that you've had it


Its irrelevant if they can identify it or not, they have sent him money, its their mistake.

The letter asking for the money back was sent by regular post so there is no proof that he even received it, not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).

Just out of curiosity... why didn't that apply when everyone was overpaid tax credits by mistake and had to pay them back and had collectors at the door, etc?
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quote:
Originally posted by Brett
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
not to mention he's not even legally bound to return it (as its their mistake).

Just out of curiosity... why didn't that apply when everyone was overpaid tax credits by mistake and had to pay them back and had collectors at the door, etc?


HMRC is a WHOLLEEEE different ball game, there are some specific laws that apply to the HMRC.
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I found a tax disc in a scrapper years ago with a few months on it, knew they only reimburse the keeper but I thought I'd give it a go.

Sent it off with my details, letter comes back saying can only give it to the keeper etc. balance on the disc is forfeited (another DVLA swizz comparable to the current date overlap one but that's another thread)

Heard nothing more until I got a demand like the one above for money back saying I'd had a cheque and I needed to pay it back immediately or face prosecution.

Suffice to say they got a swift phone call telling them to bugger off and they can try


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