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Kyle T
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Moving in somewhere next week hopefully, got an oil boiler. Not sure what to expect cost wise, the house is a fairly old semi detatched cottage but it does have quite new double glazing all around so hopefully it's not a complete money-pit energy wise.

I know oil is more expensive than gas like for like, but I don't really have a comparison benchmark. I've been living in a new build with a flat rate management fee for the last 7 years so energy costs haven't really changed for me.

It's a 3bed place, got a real fireplace in the front room so may just huddle round that during winter if it's too bad

Anybody on an oil fired boiler? What sort of price are you paying per litre, and how many deliveries do you go through per year?


[Edited on 08-03-2015 by Kyle T]


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Lily's parents had oil. But it was the oldest boiler, in the oldest house, with single glazing. It was horrendous.

With regard to payment, it was 900 to fill the tank. They never had the money to do it. I guess some companies will let you do a Direct Debit but they never seem to set it up.
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Look into biomass, good payments from the government will make it free


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Just chuck a leccy combi in and have done
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Look into biomass, good payments from the government will make it free


Difficult for full domestic, works best where there's a degree of commerce to the property, such as farms and mills. Plus new RHI payments are due to end in April iirc.
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I think we paid 45p/litre a few weeks back. That was based on 1500 litres. I think we did that 4 times over our first 12 months here, looks like this year we might get away with 3 since getting a new boiler. That is for a 6 bed detached stone farmhouse that's mostly single glazed, has 2 central heating systems and a range cooker that is on constantly from September through to May though.

As Deano said, Some companies allow you to do direct debit but we always shop around, sometimes the company charging most the last time, can be 10p/litre cheaper than the rest this time, which makes a fair difference when you're buying large quantities.

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Use approximately 2k litres a year or around 1k to 1.2k a year when oil was at it highest but at current prices be more like 900.

That's the wife and kids having at least 3 baths a day and heating on 24hrs a day.

Shop around and pay up front if you can, this gets the best price. I like it as you're paying for it before you use it.
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Thanks team.

It's a property that I'll be renting for a year or so - so changes to the heating system are unlikely.

It would seem that the tank at least has a 1000litre capacity as I saw an invoice on the worktop for a 1000litre fill-up that went in last month.

Oil prices are quite low I believe at the moment, so will definitely look to brim it up front if I can. Will start talking to some vendors tomorrow morning


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Check on boiler juice. Get the price for longest delivery then ring up local companies and they can normally beat it.

My old house (thatched cottage) was on oil but it used use it like it was going out of fashion!
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Are you talking about a oil fired combi boiler or oil cental heating unit as the latter is cheaper to run than gas as long as it is serviced yearly before use.

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I believe it's a combi boiler.

Going to turn this thread into a more generic utilities thread I think.

I've never done this before, feel like it should be easy but I'm not sure where to start.

With regards to Council Tax and utilities - is there anything I need to do before I actually move in?

The previous tenant only moved out last week - so nothing has been disconnected. Would I be picking up the services from the contracts set up by the ex-tenant?

With Oil dealing with the heating, I guess there's just electricity, water, council tax and TV license I need to deal with?

The water is apparently unmetered, not sure if that'll have a significance.

From googling around, it seems from move-in day I should record all of the meter counters and then inform the service provider. Is this the existing service provider or is this where I find a new one?

Also, is 104quid any good for a weekend of van hire?



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Initially you'll continue with the suppliers of the previous tenant, keep a note of your meter readings on your move in day. The landlord should tell you who the suppliers are, obviously you can change these whenever.

The tv license is yours so, assuming you already have one, you just transfer it to the new address, if not just apply as new.

Water is similar to electric, contact your provider who will work out your rates.

You don't have to do anything before you move in, it'll just back date from your move in day.

104 seems reasonable for a weekend.
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Cheers Dave, since putting my last post up I've switched TV License and agreed the Sky move... so that's the important bits done


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Moved in over the weekend and the 1200 tank is on <10% full, so made an order today using BoilerJuice and got 1000litres at 37p a litre - which I hear isn't too bad at all.

House is pretty drafty, typical old cottage. Going to make some efforts to seal the interior doors with some adhesive foam or similar - but the fireplace in the front room does help keep temps up on a night so we should be able to minimise boiler usage till' summer!

At the end of my tenancy (12months) I'll be sure to check back here and see how many 1000litre deliveries I've gone through!


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I certainly wont envy you next winter sometimes living in a 50s house feels cold but an old cottage with a oil heater is going to be a positively delightful experience

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Tbf the windows and exterior doors are all really new and don't seem to waste too much heat.

Main draft comes from the hallway and up the stairs - so keeping the bedroom door closed to keep it warm and closing the living room door when we're downstairs should help a lot.

Back of the house (kitchen and utility room) are toasty.


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Drafts are the least of your concerns its the paper thin walls and lack of loft insulation that's going to cause you to freeze your knackers off
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Update, spent 370 on oil a month ago.

We've used 13.7% of that according to my electronic meter.

If it lasts another 4 months, it's actually working out cheaper than the flat rate I used to pay for gas at my old one bedroom newbuild, I admit though we may pay for it back over the winter months again.



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It's been pretty mild this month though

Interesting to see what your consumption will be over summer
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quote:
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It's been pretty mild this month though

Interesting to see what your consumption will be over summer


Yeah indeed, heating has only been on an hour in the morning to encourage me out of bed

We got a dishwasher recently, so hot water usage is literally just baths and washing hands after a piss when there's no heating on.


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