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kazazza
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25th Feb 15 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Afternoon all, I've just been having a long discussion in the office about Mental Heath and Physical Health, and which should take priority when being treated etc.

We have some strong arguments for both sides and I was just wondering what the good people of CorsaSport think?
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25th Feb 15 at 12:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wouldn't have thought either one needed to take priority? They're both your health.
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Sure, neither of them 'have' to, but usually one has to when you're sitting in A&E etc. Right now we're discussing who should be treated first in this scenario: A person whos fallen off a cliff, or another whos jumped off a cliff... (If there was only 1 doctor ofc) - or should it be a random decision?
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Fallen off a cliff mentally? As in in their head they fell off.

Otherwise both are physical health....
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quote:
Originally posted by kazazza
Sure, neither of them 'have' to, but usually one has to when you're sitting in A&E etc. Right now we're discussing who should be treated first in this scenario: A person whos fallen off a cliff, or another whos jumped off a cliff... (If there was only 1 doctor ofc) - or should it be a random decision?


Maybe I should clarify this - both people have exactly the same injuries, and how/why they got their injuries was immediately obvious.
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quote:
Originally posted by spencer88
Fallen off a cliff mentally? As in in their head they fell off.

Otherwise both are physical health....


Lol - as in one person was trying to commit suicide
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Doesn't matter how it happened. They'd be treated on their injuries.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by kazazza
Sure, neither of them 'have' to, but usually one has to when you're sitting in A&E etc. Right now we're discussing who should be treated first in this scenario: A person whos fallen off a cliff, or another whos jumped off a cliff... (If there was only 1 doctor ofc) - or should it be a random decision?


Maybe I should clarify this - both people have exactly the same injuries, and how/why they got their injuries was immediately obvious.


Who ever walked in first gets treated first IMO if they have exactly the same injuries.
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quote:
Originally posted by kazazza
Afternoon all, I've just been having a long discussion in the office about Mental Heath and Physical Health, and which should take priority when being treated etc.

We have some strong arguments for both sides and I was just wondering what the good people of CorsaSport think?


I get what you mean (I think )

And I'd say mental health; for this reason-

Physical health is preferable however there are millions of examples of healthy people dropping dead without warning, and vice versa, people who eat / drink / smoke all their lives in large quantities and live to an old age.

Mental health is a lot more damaging, perhaps life ending and can strike at any age. Mental health is also harder to spot / diagnose.

It's pretty obvious when an obese person walks past you in the street, not so obvious a depressed one however.
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Go push them down the stairs to finish them off
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Whoever arrives at the hospital first?
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Physical health can be sorted, whilst fundamentally mental health can't, it can only be helped to get 'better' so mental health should take priority bar none.
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The two aren't mutually exclusive, and a lot of the time the two have a big effect on each other. But if I had to choose one I'd say mental health. If you're happy then you're happy, and obviously your physical health doesn't matter psychologically as if it did...you wouldn't be happy lol. But you can be physically well but unhappy, and that would just be shit.

Thankfully I'm physically fit and mentally happy, so win win


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Physical health can be sorted, whilst fundamentally mental health can't, it can only be helped to get 'better' so mental health should take priority bar none.


People can and very much do recover from mental ill health.
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25th Feb 15 at 20:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

here we go

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quote:
Originally posted by kazazza
Sure, neither of them 'have' to, but usually one has to when you're sitting in A&E etc. Right now we're discussing who should be treated first in this scenario: A person whos fallen off a cliff, or another whos jumped off a cliff... (If there was only 1 doctor ofc) - or should it be a random decision?


I'd have thought that would be based on a combination of first come first served, combined with triage, in relation to life threatening injuries, pain etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
here we go

HEERE WE GO


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quote:
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Physical health can be sorted, whilst fundamentally mental health can't, it can only be helped to get 'better' so mental health should take priority bar none.


People can and very much do recover from mental ill health.

You never fully recover, there isn't a cure for it, just some things can potentially ease a situation. When it's systemically in your family history/genes there isn't a huge amount you can do. As said, the underbelly will always be there.
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Mental health decline is such a horrible illness and frustrating at the same time

I had a guy working for me who ended up with mental health issues and it was so sad to see his decline

Triggers can be anything but I don't think anyone recovers from it they either learn to cope or reach a point in which they cannot decline any further

It's a horrible thing and takes up so much time trying to manage the situation

It almost become full time from a company aspect which I am sorry to say was to really to cover the company when we had to dismiss the individual

Not nice at all
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i knew a guy who pretended to be a Brazilian CEO of a fire proofing company
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I completely understand everyones rationalisation of mental illness, but I cant help thinking that physical illness should be taken more seriously. I can't get over the fact that mental issues can be cured simply with a different 'train of thought'. I'd like to think that if I was sitting in an A&E with one someone who had self inflicted injuries, that I would be helped first... Am I alone in this?? Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard!?
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quote:
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Physical health can be sorted, whilst fundamentally mental health can't, it can only be helped to get 'better' so mental health should take priority bar none.


If it can't be fixed why not just write them off and save what you can?


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Same as drink people who get pissed and hurt themselves should have to fucking wait
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Then you have the idiots who take kids to a&e for a cough


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Iv been to a and e once in the last 20years when the bonnet strike pin went through my hand.

Some people are there every fucking week. In fact my gfs family are like this

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