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SXI - Matt
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10th May 13 at 15:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Quick one and probably a very stupid question but I want to hide my cabling for my tv by cutting the plaster and putting it all behind and having some one re plaster ect so all the cables are neat and away. Got breeze block behind the plaster so it will be in between. It's a chord ethernet cable

http://www.hificables.co.uk/11954/Chord-HDMI-Active-High-Speed-with-Ethernet.html?referrer=froogle&gclid=CNzKufXsi7cCFdDJtAodShQAGg

Will it be ok behind as in it wont pick any up any interference or any thing like that due to it being exposed to cold, draft ect as in between the walls

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by SXI - Matt]
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10th May 13 at 16:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm confused, why do you need that cable? Why not just run a normal HDMI cable all the way?
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It is a normal HDMI cable isn't it I've already got it when I purchased the TV seems a very good cable. The one in the link is the one I already have.

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by SXI - Matt]
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65£ for 3m HDMI???


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Just to clarify, that price is about 20 times inflated.


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I'd be buying a few (fallback) £5 jobbies, use them for behind the wall and then sell the Chord or use it internally.
Let's hope you didn't spend £60 odd on a HDMI cable though

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by Dom]
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Will electricity be affected by cold and drafts? Wha?
SXI - Matt
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I should add I got it with the tv and got some discount, personally don't mind paying that much for a cable, don't think it is a awful lot, your system is only as good as the the weakest link, the TV was £1400 the surround sound £500 why run it though a £5 cable? Least this is reputable and voted one of the best. Like running a shit brand component on a half decent engine, what the point?

Not by air and temp more as it could get damp ect due to the temp but guess its sealed, like I say probably a silt question but not some thing I'm clued up on.

Oh and £65 is very good there normally £100+ on most shops for the 3m

Don't want to run it internally as want the wiring hidden and out of site, properly out of site not in cable management shroud ect

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by SXI - Matt]
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
why run it though a £5 cable?


Why not? There isn't any picture/sound quality difference using the Chord.

But either way, if you want to stick the Chord into the wall then yes it'll be fine. However i recommend running a spare in the event the first gets damaged.
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HDMI is literally binary, it either works or it doesn't. It's not like running good components on shit engines at all.

Speaker cable however, is a different story


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Surely if you hooked at £3 eBay job up against a £100 chord or the likes of that make cable there would be a difference. I use it for 3D ect I find it hard to believe there is no difference between the 2 at all. In fact I know having tried different ones there is certainly difference in sound quality you get from a cheap 1.

I know of people running £300+ cables for home theatre systems. There is a reason they don't have £3 eBay specials.
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
I know of people running £300+ cables for home theatre systems. There is a reason they don't have £3 eBay specials.


Either stupidity or so they can tell people they have £300+ cables
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So going off what your all saying if you were to have a £3k maybe £5k TV and £2k plus surround sound you'd all happily fit a £3 HDMI cable to feet from the player to the TV?

If safely bet money on a decent HDMJ cable will be better then some £3 shit of eBay

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by SXI - Matt]
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Matt, dont take it the wrong way mate but everyone is trying to enlighten you. The mark up on HDMI cables is complete bullshit because as someone has already mentioned its a digital signal, its 1s and 0s, its on or off. I've purchased some long HDMI cables from ebuyer.com like this one:

http://www.ebuyer.com/242261-xenta-flat-hdmi-to-hdmi-20-metre-cable-hdmi-10

and have had no issues.

No amount of gold plated air filled features will improve the cable.

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by willay]
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Also Internet:

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/why-you-don-t-need-to-spend-more-than-2-on-an-hdmi-cable-1071343
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
Also Internet:

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/why-you-don-t-need-to-spend-more-than-2-on-an-hdmi-cable-1071343

Good article that
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Yep it's all crap. Cheep ones do the job just as well.

Working in Outside Broadcast, all of our vision engineers say the same thing. We use cheepo ones for our galleries, in our trucks and anywhere else we need it. (Usually use BNC cable anyway between truck and an Aja) Sky Sports seem happy with it!

Don't fall for the hype.
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
If safely bet money on a decent HDMJ cable will be better then some £3 shit of eBay



Better connectors maybe; better cabling, perhaps; better sound or picture quality, no.
The only time it's worth spending serious money on HDMI is if you're planning to use long runs (ie: 20/30m+) where high resistance/impedance (outside of spec) of cheap cabling can induce signal clocking issues (jitter) and in-turn cause headaches for error-correction.

As Willay said, no one is trying to piss on your bonfire. Rather attempting to educate on the fact that there is a shite load of snake-oil surrounding digital cabling. And personally i think it's a bit of a shame to stick Chord behind a wall when a £5 jobby would do the trick.


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Speaker cable however, is a different story


While there might be technical differences between analogue cabling, it's an opinion minefield on whether or not the differences become audible/visible. And again, there's a load of balls surrounding analogue ie - £1-3k on a Kimber or Audioquest kettle leads (Better off spending that on improving the power supplies of your gear).
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Originally posted by jacko198
(Usually use BNC cable anyway between truck and an Aja)


Isn't SDI a bit finicky about cabling though? I know over long lengths you can get issues, hence why you tend to use RG6 cables and run reclocking amps. Although i would have thought you guys would be using fibre for runs between truck and location/set?
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
So going off what your all saying if you were to have a £3k maybe £5k TV and £2k plus surround sound you'd all happily fit a £3 HDMI cable to feet from the player to the TV?

If safely bet money on a decent HDMJ cable will be better then some £3 shit of eBay

[Edited on 10-05-2013 by SXI - Matt]


You would safely lose your dollar. Whilst the cable would probably have more durability - the results end to end would be the same. I suggest you do some googling before attempting to bet your money
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
Surely if you hooked at £3 eBay job up against a £100 chord or the likes of that make cable there would be a difference. I use it for 3D ect I find it hard to believe there is no difference between the 2 at all. In fact I know having tried different ones there is certainly difference in sound quality you get from a cheap 1.

I know of people running £300+ cables for home theatre systems. There is a reason they don't have £3 eBay specials.


Again this is bullshit - the audio transmission over HDMI is digital as well - quality doesn't come into play there... the signal either gets there or it doesn't. If there were audio "issues" rather than quality - then it was more than likely a duff cable or a niggle elsewhere.

Why do people reel off such bull when it's quite evident they have no actual real world experience of this stuff. Are you someone that stands in Richer Sounds and lets some 19 year old kid talk drivel into you???
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at knowing there is a difference when there really isn't
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I'm still rocking the cheapest cables I could find on ebay for everything.
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quote:
Originally posted by SXI - Matt
In fact I know having tried different ones there is certainly difference in sound quality you get from a cheap 1.




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Only thing I look for is a moulded plug types, the 'knock offs' with gold plated this and that which are also ~£5 tend to fall apart. If its a moulded solid plug type it lasts.

Just my own experience.

And as above, no difference in quality of AV.

[Edited on 11-05-2013 by Bart]

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