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Aaron
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26th Dec 12 at 23:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like the Neatgear ReadyNAS is getting a purchase tbh, along with 4x 3TB drives. I've read a lot of feedback about them, and it seems as though users who have quite a knowledge of ICT/networking etc seem to like them.
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Ok, i finally bit the bullet.

The HP Microserver is on the £100 cashback offer again. I just got it for £194 from eBuyer, plus 4x 3TB hard drives and 8GB of ram.

I originally wanted a purpose built NAS, like the Netgear, but the Microserver seems like such a better deal.

FreeNas i'd have thought

Bosh

[Edited on 04-02-2013 by Aaron]
Dom
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4th Feb 13 at 19:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Guessing you opted for the new N54L?

[Edited on 05-02-2013 by Dom]
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16 sky feeds what LNB do you have lol
John
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Probably just using f connectors for normal coax feeds.
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But aren't you restricted to the number of outputs on lnb to how many boxes you can have? (Novice)
John
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Each sky tuner needs an output from the LNB, there are other ways around this though, you can have 4 feeds and the correct equipment, high/low, horizontal and vertical transponders.

In this case, unless Bart corrects me, I don't think they are being used for sky at all, although they could be. He's just got 16 coax runs terminated with F connectors. Could run a standard freeview signal over them, or sky, or anything else that would go over coax.
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It'll just be a f-connector patch panel (whether it's all patched up is a different matter). And you can get octo LNBs although if you want more than eight feeds then you go down the quattro LNB route + multiswitch route and distribute the sat signal.

Edit - Worth a gander - http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/lnb.htm

[Edited on 04-02-2013 by Dom]
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My order failed earlier because i didnt let the card verification complete. eBuyer have now whacked another £100 onto the price. Cunts. . Sod it, i'll wait it out.
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Servers Direct have the cash back offer on too.

http://www.serversdirect.co.uk/Hewlett_Packard_HP_ProLiant_N40L_1P_2GB-U_Emb_SATA_NHP_250GB_LFF_150W_PS_Mi_658553-421/version.asp
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think the maximum is 8TB on the HP N40L though
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom J

think the maximum is 8TB on the HP N40L though


Plenty of users are running 4x3TB drives, although there is a 2TB boot drive limit due to the bios.

Saying that, i'd hold out for the N54L if you are planning on getting one.

[Edited on 05-02-2013 by Dom]
Aaron
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I managed to get the server for £99 after cash back today

and yes, 4x 3TB drives run fine according to some of my friends
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Also says you can get 16GB RAM in there unofficially.

With regards to ESXi, does it see the RAID? Doesn't appear to like some software RAIDs.

Thinking, 4x 3TB Disks booting EXSi off the internal USB slot. Although booting off one of the mirrored arrays will be perfectly fine.
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Don't want to thread hi jack but i don't know which way to go, whether to go the NAS route such as the Netgear Ready NAs or Home Server (like the HP microserver or similar). I want to be able to store my data centrally (got a few laptops and tablets etc) and be able to have IP cameras (around 4-5) hooked up and recording for my home security system. also want to be able to view my cameras and data remotely (securely) been looking at a few options but each have their + points and - points

[Edited on 05-02-2013 by Tom J]
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Tom,
search the forum, but its been asked 100 times before, certainly within the last year.

I own a Synology NAS and went down this route for a few reasons, the main ones being;

1 - No need to build anything
2 - No need to worry about incompatibilities, hardware or software
3 - Updates with new features without you doing any work!
4 - The device case is better/smaller/more integrated than a regular PC case
5 - The Synology devices offer a really nice web interface in comparison to 90% of other software (FreeNAS etc).
6 - Tech support (free) if anything goes wrong. If anything happens or your risk loosing your data, Synology are at the end of the line to help you out, your not left on your own.

Test Drive sinology OS: http://demo.synology.com:5000/webman/index.cgi

User: admin
Pass: synology

The Synology/Qnap devices still have apps such as torrent clients, RSS feeds, download managers, VPN, ITunes server, so no concerns there.

I've owned a Synology device for ~8 years now (have upgraded to a new product once) and they're constantly releasing firmware updates and improvements, I've never seen such a fast release schedule from any other company.

[Edited on 05-02-2013 by Bart]
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tried the test drive and its saying the password is wrong.

i guess what i want to ask now is then
Does anyone have any recommendations of High Resolution IP cameras (dont want to spend a fortune) that process the footage at the camera so I can then have it saved directly to NAS?

and what software would i use to view/search the footage
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sorry, password shouldn't have been capital S.

Take a look at this list of cameras:
http://www.synology.com/support/camera.php
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thanks. got in eventually. edit your post you've put adymin instead of admin. DS212J bay should do it? what drives would you recommend they come as empty bays dont they



[Edited on 05-02-2013 by Tom J]
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
Also says you can get 16GB RAM in there unofficially.

With regards to ESXi, does it see the RAID? Doesn't appear to like some software RAIDs.

Thinking, 4x 3TB Disks booting EXSi off the internal USB slot. Although booting off one of the mirrored arrays will be perfectly fine.


It's hit and miss regarding N36/N40 seeing 8GB+, believe the new N54 will be the same.

And it's software/fake raid so ESXI doesn't see it. You'll need a hardware raid controller.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom J
thanks. got in eventually. edit your post you've put adymin instead of admin. DS212J bay should do it? what drives would you recommend they come as empty bays dont they



Western Digitals are quite popular, although Im using Seagate's in mine.

http://www.synology.com/support/hd.php?lang=enu&bays_id=2&product_id=89
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Having 8TB worth of drives in software RAID is just asking to lose 8TB worth of data.
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Nothing wrong with software raid, just depends on the software :$

Bart's setup is so sexy

Aaron
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I intend on using FreeNas, which i think has software raid built in (i've never used it before)
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron
I intend on using FreeNas, which i think has software raid built in (i've never used it before)


FreeNas is now Nas4Free after the FreeNas name was sold. Works well though, especially ZFS.

Edit- Although expect a huge hit in performance if you're planning to virtualise, i was seeing 50MB/s reads compared to when running it Nas4Free on it's tod (off a USB stick). RDM might be an option albeit a bit risky.

[Edited on 06-02-2013 by Dom]

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