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Daimo B
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25th Apr 03 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Red_Sxi
BMW is a much better name than Vauxhall. Just imagine yourself in a club, and a fit biatch asks you what car you've got, if you say BMW you win.

Thats why my Dad got a tuned up Porsche Boxster rather than a BMW M Coupe cos he has got a "Porsche" not a "BMW" And its better built and sounds nicer.

[Edited on 25-04-2003 by Red_Sxi]


Ahhhh the difference from being <20 and being >20

I thought the idea of buying a car was cos u liked it, not to impress some bint in a club or anywhere in fact.

Personnally, i like both BMW's and Vauxhalls. But i'd have to go with the VX220 Turbo. Its quicker bottom end, will handle better, will be more fun to drive and is gonna b mental when tuned.

These cars are not in the same catergory anyway. A VX220 is designed to be a fun car/weekend/track day car. A BMW Z4 isn't. Its just like a Z3, meant for everyday boring use.

VX220 gets the from me.

*thinks of bigger turbo, intercooler, Cams, flowed head, pocketed pistons, phase 3 upgrade etc *
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25th Apr 03 at 15:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I wouldnt be seen dead in a BMW.
DAYZEE
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
*thinks of bigger turbo, intercooler, Cams, flowed head, pocketed pistons, phase 3 upgrade etc *


And then the overheating problems.................
Daimo B
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25th Apr 03 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've seen C20LETs running with 350+bhp with no overheating problems.

This isn't a R5GTT It wouldn't suffer from overheating at all.
DAYZEE
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Intercoolers not big enough for more boost and theres no where to put a bigger one.
Daimo B
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In the VX 220. Theres loadsa room i thought.

I bigger intercooler can be put anywhere with the £££ which you would need to have to buy a new VX220 T and tune it . 1 small one either side connected by pipes over each air intake
Marc
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VxT would kill a Z4, theyre shite!!!
DAYZEE
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Thats just going to increase lag, this is supposed to be a nible track car. I think the turbo has ruined a good car, it may well be faster in a straight line now but it won't be as responsive.
Daimo B
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Not what the reports say dude

Increase lag? Who cares? Track day cars are always quite high up the rev range anyway. Mind u, thats why n/a cars are better on track.

But given between the Z4, Vx220 2.2 16v, or VX220 Turbo, i'll have the turbo. Its just that much faster than the na VX to start with.
DAYZEE
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I think I'll take an Elise 111 if I had the money to buy a toy!
Ojc
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I would have a Corsa Merit instead.
Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I would have a Corsa Merit instead.


Uve talked me into it im off to get 1.
Stu
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Id have to have the VX220 I think.

Theres one I race nearly everday on my way to work, just a naturally aspirated one though. 0-60 its pretty close but after that he starts to go backwards, hes just lacking that turbo and he'd be with me.

Round the twisties though......I dont get a look in. The turbo might upset the handling a bit though. Nothing worse than coming on boost mid corner in a RWD. Makes me smile!
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106 GTi
Ojc
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Fiesta Zetec-S
Daimo B
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Funny, swear this thread was about VX220's and BMW's
Gower
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BMW 1.1 LX
Daimo B
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Ahhh, got me there
Pete
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Another thread showing the badge snobbery with the VX. I chose one over an Elise and don't regret it for a second.

As for people going - oh a Vaux wow - umm - most people don't know what it is, so that's not the normal reaction!
DAYZEE
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Mine wasn't badge snobbery, the elise is a better track car. End of.
I said I would buy it as a toy, therefore not a road car. The elise is a raw as it gets, theres not even servo assisted brakes. You feel like a part of the car.
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if i had the money i would love to own a lotus elise gti, but if someone told me i could chose a free car between the vx220 t or the bmw z4 id go with the vx220 t its much more of a fun car
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BMW=A car for Nazi's.
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For me it would have to be the vx220 people say its a vauxhall n rip the piss but then u put ur foot down and have the last laugh

[Edited on 25-04-2003 by LoudandSlow]
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy4B
BMW=A car for Nazi's.


I was a Nazi in a past life
Ian
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Totally different class of car. You only need to have sat in a VX220 to see that its a hardcore impratical thing designed with one thing in mind.

As for badge snobbery, I tell girls in the club that I drive an Astra. I don't bore them with the details of how its faster than any Beemer under £35k

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