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MarkSport
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19th Jan 11 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi All

Not sure if this it in the right section but being a trainee electrician and needing one for house work im guessing it is?

Anyway, does anybody have any knowlege on SDS Drills (the type with hammer chissel mode) ?

I'm after one for my tools but dont want to spend a great deal as i wont use it too often.I have a job out of hours doing a one of installation and need to drill through a solid brick wall to install cable.I've had a look on ebay but i'm not sure whats good or not when it comes to


Motor size/ load speed/impact rate and it having a torque limiting clutch?

All i know is its safer to get a 110v instead of 230v one

RichR
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19th Jan 11 at 11:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've got a Bosch one and its bloody brilliant. I was struggling to put a blind up with the bracket fastened into the the concrete lintel above the window. Bought the SDS and it ate it. Its taken some serious abuse and is still going strong
MarkSport
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Ah thats cool then, cheers! I'm looking at a bosch one atm on ebay. £40 aswell
John
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Do you have a 110v transformer?
daymoon
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19th Jan 11 at 12:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

We got a Bosch one too! Awesome! Need to invest into some proper drill bits though!

You get wierd feelings in your arm after using hammer chisel mode!
MarkSport
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I don't have a transformer no but I would need to get one if i get a 110 wouldnt i?

I know yeah. i used my old boss's one and My arm was dead after channelling all the walls out.
harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
I don't have a transformer no but I would need to get one if i get a 110 wouldnt i?

I know yeah. i used my old boss's one and My arm was dead after channelling all the walls out.


Yes you need a transformer if your using a 110v drill,
Pretty much any decent make sds drill will do what you are asking it to.
Yes 110v is safer than 230v and technically on site you should only use 110v for mains, but everyone uses both


O dear Ive replied to you without taking the piss, best keep up taking the piss to stay as your most hated member .
MarkSport
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I was just about to say... Harrisp with a decent reply for once! see, it wasn't that hard was it?

mattk
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Ive had a Bosch one for years no and its still going, Ive had the chuck changed on it though

I also have Bosch Cordless tools too the SDS-GBH 36v are the tits
harrisp
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
I was just about to say... Harrisp with a decent reply for once! see, it wasn't that hard was it?




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Originally posted by mattk
Ive had a Bosch one for years no and its still going, Ive had the chuck changed on it though

I also have Bosch Cordless tools too the SDS-GBH 36v are the tits


My next purchase will be a 24v+ sds drill, dont really like the makita 24v (I want a play with the new makita li-ion sds drill but its only 18v which is the same batterys as my combi drill so cant imagine it being as good as 24v stuff) and a bloke I work with has got a metabo that has been back under warranty quite a few times.

/thread hijack
MarkSport
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makita ones are normally good. my boss had one but the batterys fucked up

I need one but im not sure if i should get cordless or mains?
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19th Jan 11 at 23:24   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

We have a De-Walt SDS drill at work, drills the fuck way through anything in it's path. My colleauge hit a gas pipe with it once, that got expensive
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkSport
makita ones are normally good. my boss had one but the batterys fucked up

I need one but im not sure if i should get cordless or mains?



If you can afford a decent cordless then get that, if not get a main then a cordless, saves running extension leads everywhere etc.

Got a makita drill already just cant see the big sds any good with just 18v, this one
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20th Jan 11 at 03:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hilti are awesome. everyone i know uses them.
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Got a Hilti TE2-A 24v SDS and it's pretty good, All we use on Site is Hilti's
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Bosch cordless are the best I've used.

But f your not gonna use it all the time I'd go for a corded dewalt. That's what I use and it's been going strong for about 3 years now.
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Erbauer, got a 6KG SDS hammer one here which got picked up for £40 during a Screwfix sale. It's been given grief over the last year or two and i haven't come across anything it won't go through

Edit - Regarding DeWalt, it's all made by B&D now. Brother had a £250 mains drill, it's pretty shite especially as the hammer action failed after a few years.

[Edited on 23-01-2011 by Dom]
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Dewalt and black and decker have been the same company for years. Dnt stop dewalt been top quality. All my kit is either dewalt or makita.

Erbauer gear dosent impress me at all. But it does depend on what conditions it'll be used in.

End of the day you get what you pay for.
ash_corsa
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We use 18v Makita Li-ion drills at work, just as good if not better than my dads 24v DeWalt.
Amazing power for such a small drill, drills 25/30mm holes in concrete with ease.

Corded drills are a pain in the arse if your a spark, and you need 110v if using on site so a heavy/bulky tranny is required too.

Depends on your budget mate and how much use it'l get. A cheap corded drill will be 10x better than a cheap battery drill.
Pretty sure our Makitas are about £400
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My DeWalt 18v combi drill has just given up after about 6 yrs of abuse, bit dissapointed! Batteries faded a long time ago!
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quote:
Originally posted by ash_corsa
We use 18v Makita Li-ion drills at work, just as good if not better than my dads 24v DeWalt.
Amazing power for such a small drill, drills 25/30mm holes in concrete with ease.

Corded drills are a pain in the arse if your a spark, and you need 110v if using on site so a heavy/bulky tranny is required too.

Depends on your budget mate and how much use it'l get. A cheap corded drill will be 10x better than a cheap battery drill.
Pretty sure our Makitas are about £400


These makitas? if so thats what I'm after next.
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I have just retruned my second Black and decker lithium ion 18v drill- waste of time they were crap

just got an 18v lithium ion JCB hammer drill and its by far the best i have had

Makita tend to be also good as do Hilti

De-walt have gone down hill IMO
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just bought a 110v dewalt drill off the market for £50 its a beast, has chisel function too, best drill ive got
Edd
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Bosch sds are the best on the market, but a good drill is only the half of it all about the drill bit.

 
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