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DaveyLC
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5th Jan 11 at 13:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm about to start Beta testing a tracking solution and I'm looking for testers.

If anyone is interested all I ask is you cover the cost of the hardware which will be about £80 then all you'd need to do is get a simcard and keep it topped up or go for a £5/month pre-pay deal, It uses GPRS for position updates not SMS so the costs are minimal.

The service will let you track your car in real-time and if you use the immobolisation circuit it will also let you cut the fuel if it is stolen all from your mobile phone.

Give me a shout if you are interested in getting involved in testing.
Mobby
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That sounds brilliant dave. possible to use contract phone?
stubs
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Who's doing the fitting of these, and at what cost?

Any chance you need a NW contact for this?
DaveyLC
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5th Jan 11 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Nothing setup on the installation side as yet
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whats the size of it and how do you track it what software do you use?
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5th Jan 11 at 15:54   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
can you fit them to wheels

http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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stubs
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Another thing... does it send data to a server continually, or only on demand? If continually, does it have a way to buffer the data whilst out of cellular range?

Does it offer any sort of live monitoring? i.e. alerts if the alarm is triggered, or the car is driven between certain times? etc...

What about text alerts? Are they available too?
stubs
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quote:
Originally posted by Tomnova16
can you fit them to wheels


sorry to hear about that, I know the feeling and it's not nice
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http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
Located in Chalfont st Peter
stubs
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5th Jan 11 at 15:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'd be interested in installing some in the NW area as a sideline to my full time job if that's an option for you?
Jambo
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5th Jan 11 at 15:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
GPRS would cost more than SMS if on a prepaid setup tbh

Sounds like a neat idea though
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
GPRS would cost more than SMS if on a prepaid setup tbh

Sounds like a neat idea though


The data usage is MINIMAL most PAYG sims have a 30p minimum daily data charge in most cases that would equate to about 4 SMS messages so that £10/month credit. Or go for a £5/month deal with a data package.
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by stubs
I'd be interested in installing some in the NW area as a sideline to my full time job if that's an option for you?


Will have to see how it goes
Doug
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5th Jan 11 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I fear it would be near useless.

Any decent car thief just uses one of these:
http://www.thejammerworld.com/product_detail_en_Mobile_Phone_Jammer_Handheld_Cellphone_Jammer_HPJ-01_85.html

Or they get one that does GPS and VHF (I think?) to knock out the trackers as well.
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5th Jan 11 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Doug Valentine has a point and for that reason im out
DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug
I fear it would be near useless.

Any decent car thief just uses one of these:
http://www.thejammerworld.com/product_detail_en_Mobile_Phone_Jammer_Handheld_Cellphone_Jammer_HPJ-01_85.html

Or they get one that does GPS and VHF (I think?) to knock out the trackers as well.


I'm sure every car theif has got one

Its only got to kick out one packet and get a fix on a satelite for a brief second and you'll be notified that its moved, its then only got to receive a single sms message to disable the car.

[Edited on 05-01-2011 by DaveyLC]
stubs
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug
I fear it would be near useless.

Any decent car thief just uses one of these:
http://www.thejammerworld.com/product_detail_en_Mobile_Phone_Jammer_Handheld_Cellphone_Jammer_HPJ-01_85.html

Or they get one that does GPS and VHF (I think?) to knock out the trackers as well.


That's like saying door locks are useless because they can be bypassed... or alarms are useless because they can be bypassed... does that mean that you leave your car unlocked and unarmed?

Nothing is going to be 100% fullproof, but if you can increase your chances of getting your car back, or preventing it going in the 1st place, then it's better than nothing.
stubs
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5th Jan 11 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dave, please can you send me full details on the product?
Ant
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I'd be interested but would like to know if it can be set to constantly feedback to a server, I'd like to know where the scum are taking my pride and joy to strip it at the very least! Cutting the fuel supply I'm afraid wouldn't help if it was on the back of a trailer
DaveyLC
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5th Jan 11 at 21:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Constant updates are fed back to a hosted database while the vehicle is moving.
John
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How do you plan to make this take off any more than the myriad of solutions (including diy) that are out there already?
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5th Jan 11 at 21:31   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gareth F
Doug Valentine has a point and for that reason im out



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5th Jan 11 at 21:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
What's the update frequency? Wouldn't mind one of these in the Puma if you can monitor in real time.

Wouldn't mind seeing a few sample rows of data if that is possible.
DaveyLC
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5th Jan 11 at 21:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
1 Minute Interval.

quote:
Originally posted by John
How do you plan to make this take off any more than the myriad of solutions (including diy) that are out there already?


The basic tracking service will be 100% FREE.
John
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Can do that with just about any phone that has gps and runs java, cutting fuel and immobilising needs more money/brains though.

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