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Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 09:09

Basically i've been offered a W plate 1.2 16v Fiat Punto 5 door pretty cheap because it needs its head gasket doing.
Its done 61k miles, MOT till May, Tax till April, needs the cambelt doing as well. It's got service history, had a couple of new tyres recently and it does still run.
I'm planning on doing all the work myself, headgasket, cambelt and a service. Then just clean it up and give it a polish and hopefully make a tidy profit!

What i want to know is how easy is the headgasket and cambelt to do on the 16v? Because i've heard the 8v is pretty easy.
And how much would you pay for the car if you were doing the work yourself, got the parts at trade price and was just doing it for the profit?

Any help is appreciated!

jay26

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27th Nov 10 at 09:16

£350 ish to buy the car, headgasket is piss easy nearly same as the 8v

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 09:28

Ahh good good! I've been offered it for less than that, and he's willing to haggle on the price

Think the only difference is you have to lock the cam pulleys on the 16v so they don't move? Any idea how long it should take me to do?

jay26

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27th Nov 10 at 09:30

same time ish as an 8v if you know your stuff, and there is still only one cam pully on the 16v so no tools needed

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 09:32

Oh even better then! I'm not a seasoned mechanic or anything, did a course at college and done a few little bits so should alright at this with a Haynes manual haha

Twiggy

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27th Nov 10 at 09:32

When i had a X plate punto they only did 1.2 8v's?

jay26

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27th Nov 10 at 09:33

quote:
Originally posted by Twiggy
When i had a X plate punto they only did 1.2 8v's?

they made 16v aswell mate

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 09:37

Yeah this is definitely a 16v, think it was only higher spec ones or something? Not sure really

Archie

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27th Nov 10 at 10:58

Punto Sporting was 16v iirc.

LeeM

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27th Nov 10 at 11:07

I'd give 150 max. Not gonna be worth loads when fixed anyway.
Only difference between 8v and 16v is 2 cam pulleys to time, they should have timing marks anyway

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 11:16

quote:
Originally posted by Archie
Punto Sporting was 16v iirc.

This is an ELX 5 door and is definitely a 16v

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 11:17

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
I'd give 150 max. Not gonna be worth loads when fixed anyway.
Only difference between 8v and 16v is 2 cam pulleys to time, they should have timing marks anyway

Punto's with the same spec, colour, mileage etc seem to be going for anything from £900-£1400

Twiggy

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27th Nov 10 at 13:04

I had an elx and it was a 8v.

Is it a mk1 or 2?? mine was a mk2...

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 15:33

Mk2, there are 8v and 16v ELX's listed on parkers

Piér

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27th Nov 10 at 15:34

My sisters is a 1.25 16v sporting mk2

if that helps?

jay26

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27th Nov 10 at 15:45

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
I'd give 150 max. Not gonna be worth loads when fixed anyway.
Only difference between 8v and 16v is 2 cam pulleys to time, they should have timing marks anyway

16v has only one cam pully aswell

alan t

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27th Nov 10 at 15:50

personally i wouldnt pay more than £100 for it, you should be fine doing the head gasket on it as there pretty simple. when tensioning the belt back up there is ment to be a special tool for tensioning them but we just use a pair of angled circlip pliers, you will see 2 small holes in the tensioner, just insert your angled pliers into the two holes and turn the tensioner untill the arrow lines up with the slot. if you need any help with it just send me a u2u mate

LeeM

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27th Nov 10 at 17:08

quote:
Originally posted by jay26

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
I'd give 150 max. Not gonna be worth loads when fixed anyway.
Only difference between 8v and 16v is 2 cam pulleys to time, they should have timing marks anyway

16v has only one cam pully aswell

o rly, never seen a 16v with one cam so just assumed it would be twin cam

harrisp

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27th Nov 10 at 17:10

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM

quote:
Originally posted by jay26

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
I'd give 150 max. Not gonna be worth loads when fixed anyway.
Only difference between 8v and 16v is 2 cam pulleys to time, they should have timing marks anyway

16v has only one cam pully aswell

o rly, never seen a 16v with one cam so just assumed it would be twin cam

A few honda engines have 16v with one cam pulley.

LeeM

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27th Nov 10 at 17:12

just like an 8v cam but with 2 sets of lobes or 1 lobe for both valves?

Ian

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27th Nov 10 at 17:13

I would probably only go to £100 max assuming everything else was sound.

The jobs themselves aren't difficult but you'll generally need to remove a lot of stuff to get to the HG.

Belt will also be a pain in the ass, enlist a bit of help to hold it on the pulleys while someone else holds the tension off.

[Edited on 27-11-2010 by Ian]

Ryan_G1

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27th Nov 10 at 17:16

Piece of piss to do TBH.

alan-g-w

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27th Nov 10 at 17:19

One tip - label all the plugs, pipes and hoses A+A, B+B, etc. Will make it so much easier when it comes to piecing it together.

Norcy91

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27th Nov 10 at 18:52

I'd say £200-£250 for the car wouldn't be bad really, it's under £200 for the parts and I should sell it easily enough for £1000 so there's enough profit in it. Not like I need stretch myself to do the work, I have pleeeenty of spare time and could do with the extra cash

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