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Chadicles
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2nd Jun 10 at 16:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hey i was wondering whats the difference on running the f20 and f16 gearbox on a c20xe engine, got to replace mine but i'm unsure on what to use, my mate had a f16 and i can't remember why i like it!
mike56gte
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2nd Jun 10 at 16:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

f16 is closer ratio so is better for acceleration but tops out at 137mph(i think) f20 has longer gears and is a stronger box not sure what its gear to 140+
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Ohh right cheers for the info! humm i really don't need any more acceleration i'd never get the power down but then 140+ on the public road is just stupid imo!
Scotty C
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2nd Jun 10 at 16:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What have you done to your valver to justify not being able to 'get the power down'?
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mine gets the power down just fine with an f16
Sean-B
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2nd Jun 10 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by dan-sport
mine gets the power down just fine with an f16


Do you have 1st and 2nd???
dan-sport
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i do, i also have 3rd, 4th and fifth.

if you just go balls out flooring it in first it will spin but its never span in 2nd but i do have chunky tyres
Nic Barnes
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2nd Jun 10 at 17:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

there are differnt f16's not all are close ratio.
Chadicles
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nothing i just don't want to look like a chav in mcdonnalds car park trying to spin his wheels, yes ours will spin much better but i'm not into that.... nah my engine ain't majorly modified i just think the f20 would be more practical through the early gears and over taking isn't really a problem either... i'm sorry if i offended you
dan-sport
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apology accepted
Nic Barnes
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there isnt really a massive difference between the ratios of the f16 and the f20
mike56gte
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2nd Jun 10 at 17:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

probably better with the f20 its a stronger gearbox from what i have heard
Chadicles
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no probs i'm not here to argue.. so what size wheels you running? and what tyres?
SportBoy
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
there isnt really a massive difference between the ratios of the f16 and the f20


+1 .. dont know why people make such a fuss over what box to get . the engine is pretty much just as capable with either the f16 or f20
dan-sport
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im running sport wheels with 185/65's on and its fine in my opinion
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F16w is nearly the longest box you can get on a vauxhall IRC
Nic Barnes
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i am sure that will help lots of people.

Chadicles
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes


i am sure that will help lots of people.




Now that is some very handy information! cheers bud!
mike56gte
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2nd Jun 10 at 17:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


pretty handy thati have the f20 on mine and wouldnt bother changing it

[Edited on 02-06-2010 by mike56gte]
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thats more comprehensive and posh
Chadicles
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haha shame theres not alot of info to what vehicles they are fitted to.. there is a way of fitting the smaller gearboxes to big block engines and then you can used standard diesel shafts but fuck that! wouldn't last and 3rd 4th and 5th would be insane if it could hold out!
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i have known a few that have ran xe's on f13's and they had no problems.
Chadicles
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Really? what and the gearboxes lasted? my mate breaks alot of vauxhalls and is always coming up with something to make.. and he ways toying with the idea of a 2l 8v on a f13 with diesel shafts, i think you have to change the flywheel and clutch for it to fit but am unsure! but thing got in the way and he didn't have time to fix it if it broke so he sold it all
Corsa_Sport21
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The gearbox best suited to the C20XE is the 1 that it had fitted from factory......F20......If any of the others were any better,then they would have used that surely.

Oh and XE with F20 fitted will top out at around 137 real world speed and not 140+.

[Edited on 02-06-2010 by Corsa_Sport21]
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21


Oh and XE with F20 fitted will top out at around 137 real world speed and not 140+.

[Edited on 02-06-2010 by Corsa_Sport21]


orite suppose real speed and speedo speed are different as i have had the clocks reading 140. but i checked my speedo to a sat nav and think the speedo read 5mph faster at 70mph


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