Matt L
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Last time this happened was because of the rarb being on i think but just lost the backend of my car again on a roundabout  not even going that quick just went all of a sudden atleast last time i knew it waz going to happen and i could feel it begin to go this time it just snapped thankfully roads were empty and wide enough for me to correct it and crap without hitting anything.
Really is suprisngly scary when it happens as really i have no control of the car.
Anywho thats my highlight for tonight lol
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Bonney
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Must be a mk4 problem. Mine did it a time or two.
Scaryest time was coming off the m62 going onto the m60 near the trafford centre at the side of a lorry. Needless to say she was screaming in the car whilst i was laughing 
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Graham88
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Fiestas are bad for it too, had mine spin a few times
[Edited on 22-11-2009 by Graham88]
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markx14xe
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rear tyre grip been the problem it also happend to me it happends so fast tho
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richc
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Must be going to quick for the back end to step out
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Wrighty
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what RARB have you got? the idea behind an uprated one of these is to reduce rear end grip & produce more front end grip on FWD cars, thus pulling you through / round corners while on the gas. Sounds like you need to uprate the front also to suite your driving style...
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Matt L
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Its the whiteline one its not on the car though anymore got taken off a few weeks ago
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Fad
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This is how Pow ended up in a ditch and why Pickford hates his I think.
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pow
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It's exactly how mine ended up in a ditch.
Fine in the dry
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Matt L
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Yeah cant wait till i can get a new car but need to decide what i want first
but like you say in the dry its fine but get the smallest bit of water on the road and well its shit
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chris_uk
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sounds like (not trying to offend) driver training is the next thing you should be spending your money on.
[Edited on 22-11-2009 by chris_uk]
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Ojc
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Interesting, Graham mentions his Fiesta as well which as far as I'm aware they all have the same setup with the semi independent rear.
I've said it before but people always say how the semi independent is better, but I don't agree. I think if you get it wrong with the semi independent rear it tends to happen quickly and you it doesn't warn you like say the rear setups on Corsa B/C where it's a gradual thing as it lets go and you can feel it.
They are brilliant in the dry as you can get it back into shape but put the unexpected into the equation and it tends to get dangerous.
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I've said it before but people always say how the semi independent is better, but I don't agree. I think if you get it wrong with the semi independent rear it tends to happen quickly and you it doesn't warn you like say the rear setups on Corsa B/C where it's a gradual thing as it lets go and you can feel it.
They are brilliant in the dry as you can get it back into shape but put the unexpected into the equation and it tends to get dangerous.
Its not really a independant suspension vs rigid beam argument.
I think this is down to how well they are set up. e.g the rear end of my corsa was very much like the above which let go at random in the wet. These were the days when I thought as long as you got Koni's you'll be fine. Set up and tyres are critical in the way a car behaves.
My Mums ST170 has full independent rear suspension and my god for a standard car and a car of its size its planted wet or dry. Then again Fords always seem well set up and have decent driving dynamics even in their standard stuff.
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kev
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what tyres are they? 
mines ok on uniroyals not that bad in the wet at all?.... 
get some arb's on that might keep her stuck to the road also 
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chrisd1983
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My fabia vRS was like this with ditch finders on the rear, put some decent tyres on and its alot better.
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shaunmods
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Just spun the 106 this morning after some dumb ass bitch pulled out in front of me on an wet island. It locked up so I let off the brakes a bit so I dodge her then the arse end came out. Shit myself good and proper!
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gavin18787
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Could be down to tyres?
My gsi was the same bit of water and you could just feel the back floating around even at about 15mph
Set of decent tyres and it was fine 
Are there issues with idependant rear suspension been a big unforgiving then?
CTR was a bit like that. Was grip, grip, grip and suddenly sliding etc
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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John
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I had a fabia with an ARB.
If the back end comes out when you don't mean it to you are driving it wrong.
They don't just start coming out randomly when going round a roundabout slowly.
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Could be down to tyres?
I put it down to that alot. T1-R's are SHOCKING in the wet
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shaunmods
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agreed! I've got little 13" dolly wheels on mine wrapped in budgets. Makes for an interesting drive in the wet put it that way
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
what RARB have you got? the idea behind an uprated one of these is to reduce rear end grip & produce more front end grip on FWD cars, thus pulling you through / round corners while on the gas. Sounds like you need to uprate the front also to suite your driving style...
It increases front and rear grip, but reduces rear grip only on lift off
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deano87
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Just shows anyone can drive in a straight line 
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
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Originally posted by gavin18787
Could be down to tyres?
I put it down to that alot. T1-R's are SHOCKING in the wet
I dont find my bad and they are only 1mm off the limit
All depends on the car though. seem to suit little cars like saxo's but on things like CTR's they are too soft and a shite
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Ojc
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T1-R are decent in the wet TBH
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P1CK4D
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Could be down to tyres?
I put it down to that alot. T1-R's are SHOCKING in the wet
Agreed tbh.
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