DaveyLC
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Sorry if this is a re-post but people need to read this and sign the petition!
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842
New regulations set to come into force later this month will see motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not guilty or acquitted of motoring offences.
The government-inspired change to the current set-up - where drivers get costs refunded if they're innocent - is being implemented to save cash, in spite of fierce opposition from legal and motoring groups who were nominally 'consulted' before the new policy was drawn up.
According to the Ministry of Justice, the age old principle of 'the loser pays' has been costing the government too much money. As a result the new rules make it clear that in future drivers will have to foot the bill for clearing their name. According to The Taxpayers Alliance, that equates to 400,000 people, or one in four of those who challenge a ticket.
Now the Conservative party has joined the last ditch effort to derail the changes, and campaigners are looking for more signatories to a petition on the Number 10 website. We're off to go and sign the petition ourselves, and you can find out more by reading the press release below, that was issued by the Association of Motor Offence Lawyers today.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/CostsRecovery/
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Nic Barnes
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this just another internet scare tactic no doubt. like most. id wait till some concrete evidence is in place before believing internet hype kids.
FAIL
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Cosmo
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Is this even legal?
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DaveyLC
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/6236628/Innocent-motorists-to-be-asked-to-pay-court-costs.html
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Nic Barnes
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yet nothing official from the government? bizarre.
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Is this even legal?
Does it even matter anymore? Section 59 is an absoloute piss take and that came into force! Same with P.A.C.E. and the possible future legislation where a police officer will be able to do you for motoring offences with no real right to appeal.
Dictatorship anyone?
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
yet nothing official from the government? bizarre.
There never is for legislation like this until someone really kicks up fuss about it because these kind of things are brushed under the carpet on purpose because they upset so many people.
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Nic Barnes
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tbh, dont fuck about then your fine. how people can complain at being caught doing something illegal is just rediculous.
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DaveyLC
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The point is people arent always doing something illegal! Speed cameras can be faulty or uncalibrated, police officers can make bad judgments, people can steal number plates etc..
What would you do if you had your plates stolen and someone drove through a speed camera and you contested it but it still went to court but in court you were found innocent but you still had to pay for all of the costs?
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Nic Barnes
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well what else would i do? id have to pay the costs. what else could i do?
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BarnshaW
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i would remove my numberplates at night
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DaveyLC
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Exactly! And thats a complete and utter farce.. Not only have you got to prove you're innocence you've then got to pay for the privallage!
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Ste L
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
well what else would i do? id have to pay the costs. what else could i do?
take the points and fine, which would probably work out cheaper
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
Exactly! And thats a complete and utter farce.. Not only have you got to prove you're innocence you've then got to pay for the privallage!
its pretty obvious that if found innocent you'd just take whatever to court to claim the costs back. all that basically says is if your innocent you wont automatically be given the costs back.
then again, its a fuckin internet rumour.
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bigjim172000
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
tbh, dont fuck about then your fine. how people can complain at being caught doing something illegal is just rediculous.
So if someone cloned your car, did a hit and run killing someone, you would be happy to go to jail?
Jog on 
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
tbh, dont fuck about then your fine. how people can complain at being caught doing something illegal is just rediculous.
So if someone cloned your car, did a hit and run killing someone, you would be happy to go to jail?
Jog on
well no because i wouldnt go to jail would i?
you can jog on yourself tbh
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Ojc
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Brilliant, so now you will pulled over every 30 seconds, put through court and have to pay for the pleasure.
This country is turning into a communist state more and more each month
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Adam_B
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I'll be very surprised if you cant claim it back.
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bigjim172000
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by bigjim172000
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
tbh, dont fuck about then your fine. how people can complain at being caught doing something illegal is just rediculous.
So if someone cloned your car, did a hit and run killing someone, you would be happy to go to jail?
Jog on
well no because i wouldnt go to jail would i?
you can jog on yourself tbh
Of course you would, You just said dont challenge it, or would you now change your mind, and challenge it, go to court, spend £10k
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by bigjim172000
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by bigjim172000
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
tbh, dont fuck about then your fine. how people can complain at being caught doing something illegal is just rediculous.
So if someone cloned your car, did a hit and run killing someone, you would be happy to go to jail?
Jog on
well no because i wouldnt go to jail would i?
you can jog on yourself tbh
Of course you would, You just said dont challenge it, or would you now change your mind, and challenge it, go to court, spend £10k
your downfall revolves around a charge of manslaughter vs a motoring conviction. im not entirely sure you have understood the information that is allegedly reported, or the reply ive made regarding that. thankyou.
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Gareth F
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Owned lol.
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ed
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
well what else would i do? id have to pay the costs. what else could i do?
It's not right though. You've got to stand up for things like this because it's a piss take.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by ed
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
well what else would i do? id have to pay the costs. what else could i do?
It's not right though. You've got to stand up for things like this because it's a piss take.
thats it though, it is a piss take. it cant happen.
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Jake
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
this just another internet scare tactic no doubt. like most. id wait till some concrete evidence is in place before believing internet hype kids.
FAIL
are you sure because ive just had a load of t-shirt made
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Nic Barnes
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oh right
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