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Sean-B
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10th Aug 09 at 16:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i've just bought myself a C20XE

currently i've got a X16XE, with inlet manifold, janspeed 4-2-1 and janspeed cat back, K&N panel drilled airbox, 10mm HT leads

I was behind my mate yesterday in his C20XE. He couldn't really pull away from me at all and it isn't the sort of performance increase I was looking for.

Is his C20XE probably not running right or are they really just not that much quicker?

I hope its the former!
danbear
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10th Aug 09 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

probably aint running right tbh. what bhp is your car runing? i had a play with a fiesta st and he couldn't get past me
Sean-B
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10th Aug 09 at 16:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i havn't had it rolling roaded but estimate 120-125bhp

i can gain on a fiesta ST
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my sport is only standard but i'm thinking about doing some engine work. what have u done to yours?
Sean-B
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10th Aug 09 at 16:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it says in my first post mate
Eck
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10th Aug 09 at 16:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In all honesty, his must be waaaaaay down on power as he should have easily pulled away up til 90, then you'd be easier giving up after that.
Kevxx
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My xe was killing fiesta ST's, so you're xe isn't running right bud

Sean-B
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
My xe was killing fiesta ST's, so you're xe isn't running right bud




it's my mates XE i was playing with. I was talking about my X16XE when I said it pulls on ST's

Hopefully (although I feel sorry for my mate) that is the case then Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Sean-B
it says in my first post mate


oh yeah silly me
Eck
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It most certainly is mate. Pete_vxl from here had those mods with a decat, and had it rr'd at 129bhp. On a short blat my XSi 16v gained embarassingly easily on that, and my XSi was on par with XE's.
Sean-B
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
It most certainly is mate. Pete_vxl from here had those mods with a decat, and had it rr'd at 129bhp. On a short blat my XSi 16v gained embarassingly easily on that, and my XSi was on par with XE's.


This makes me feel better, I was seriously begining to regret my purchase but i'm happy again now

If anyone would like to come and thrash my car in a XE feel free!
Eck
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10th Aug 09 at 16:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The other bonus is, if it's a good example, you will get better mpg And it's soooo much smoother to drive. Overtaking can be done in 4th or 5th on a wave of torque
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10th Aug 09 at 16:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

plus with a xe for the same money you spent on performance birs on the 16xe you'd have a pritty nippy xe... miss mine was so much easyer to drive than my 14xe
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
It most certainly is mate. Pete_vxl from here had those mods with a decat, and had it rr'd at 129bhp. On a short blat my XSi 16v gained embarassingly easily on that, and my XSi was on par with XE's.


do you have 1/4 mile times?
Not that i don't believe you..just what times is you're XSi pulling?
Sean-B
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10th Aug 09 at 17:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm hopeing to recoup some money from selling my X16XE parts

what sort of tuning can be done to the C20XE? within the 500 bracket
Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by Sean-B
I'm hopeing to recoup some money from selling my X16XE parts

what sort of tuning can be done to the C20XE? within the 500 bracket


if in good condition, i'd get some carbs for it
Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
quote:
Originally posted by Eck
It most certainly is mate. Pete_vxl from here had those mods with a decat, and had it rr'd at 129bhp. On a short blat my XSi 16v gained embarassingly easily on that, and my XSi was on par with XE's.


do you have 1/4 mile times?
Not that i don't believe you..just what times is you're XSi pulling?


Didn't take it up the strip so no real idea tbh mate But I'm assuming it was making standard power (about 120bhp) and it was completely stripped out (no interior, cd player speakers etc) so should have at least 150-160bhp/tonne. My assumption is based on a wee blat against an XE from around my way and he couldn't get away at all, even though it is easier to be behind someone when racing I sincerely doubt he would have gained on me if I was in front either
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
quote:
Originally posted by Sean-B
I'm hopeing to recoup some money from selling my X16XE parts

what sort of tuning can be done to the C20XE? within the 500 bracket


if in good condition, i'd get some carbs for it


Should get some twin 40/45's for about 300 and a manifold and other necessities would make up the other 200!
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10th Aug 09 at 17:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i happen to have some R1 bodies for sale. 8-)
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10th Aug 09 at 17:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How much? Could do with a bit more poke in the 1.4!
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85 mate, they are in the forsale section
with loom if you're mad enough to run management on a 1.4 :/ hahaha
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quote:
Originally posted by Kevxx
85 mate, they are in the forsale section
with loom if you're mad enough to run management on a 1.4 :/ hahaha

Tbh, I'm sure selling my Mantzel would get me a good 2/3rds of the money back I might get back to you once I get paid on Thursday fella
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10th Aug 09 at 17:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

His XE mustn't be running right!
We did a conversion to my mates car but then he was gutted as mine just pulled away from his

Best mods for an XE would be exhuast manifold + carbs!

I have a manifold for sale......
gez bay
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10th Aug 09 at 18:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

before my old x16xe died it went well and i was really pleased with it
vxperformance inlet
raceland 4-2-1 manifold
sportex decat
ashley cat back system
10mm leads
K&N panel drilled airbox

and i raced a blue clio sport 172 which had 4 in his car and i had two in mine and i could stay on his bumper until 105mph he was pulling away then. i had an advantage with the drag aswel though.
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if want a head fully/ported/polished drop me a u2u if gen interested.

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