Richardhhha
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hay all
mate of mine has asked me to do a turbo conversion on his supra
its only a 3.0 N/A model atm just wondering if anyone has worked on these before and if they are a buger to work on
rich
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BluKoo
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Where's AK?
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Richardhhha
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he aint online lol is he a bit of a japcrap nut?
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BluKoo
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Not sure, but he's the only person I know of on this site who's owned a Supra.
However, I think his might have been the 3.0 n/a too, so he wouldn't have any experience with the turbo.
He does like his jap stuff though. He's got a bit of a quick R32 Skyline.
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WATSON
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Check out something like http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/index.php Im sure there will be plenty help over on there.
Id have thought it would be a full loom change,fuel pump ect not just a simple plug in and play.
Sure AK will point you in the right direction if i remember right he used to have a supra running around 400+bhp at some point back in the days
[Edited on 27-07-2009 by WATSON]
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Adam-D
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ak's was definatly a turbo.
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
ak's was definatly a turbo.
with silly figures at the wheels too 
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Richardhhha
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quote:
Originally posted by WATSON
Check out something like http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/index.php Im sure there will be plenty help over on there.
Id have thought it would be a full loom change,fuel pump ect not just a simple plug in and play.
Sure AK will point you in the right direction if i remember right he used to have a supra running around 400+bhp at some point back in the days
[Edited on 27-07-2009 by WATSON]
thanks for the site will have to have a ganders in a bit, from what i can see of the turbo kits online (havent looked thrugh ebay a went through some supra specialist sites) they are fairly plug and play really.. emailed off to a manufacturer about it asking wether the car needs new managment, lower comp pistons ect
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BluKoo
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
ak's was definatly a turbo.
with silly figures at the wheels too
Was it?
I remember it getting beaten by LuckyB's corsa quite often down at Crail...
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SportBoy
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was about 400ish bhp i think .. was an auto too . wasnt slow tho!
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WATSON
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So are you planning on just slapping a turbo on and thats it?
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richc
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t51r.... Im sure for the price of converting a n/a to a turbo your could buy a turbo supra?
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Richardhhha
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well i need to know whats needed so i can ether tell my mate i can do it or he'll have to take it somewhere, he got a quote of 3k to do the conversion, he ust wants it done perfectly and im just a little picky when it comes to engines.. like everything to be perfect
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J da Silva
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To be honest, I would just decline and let him take it somewhere professional.
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Stu_22
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I have a mk3 supra turbo and working on the corsa is dead easy compared to the supra
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John
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Should he not just sell it and buy a TT one, the N/A ones are balls.
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Richardhhha
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would cost a utter bomb for a TT version thats manuel mate, have seen a few supras in the past and all of them were auto's was temping at a toyota garage last week and saw my first manuel TT supra.. some peeps have been working there 10 years and never seen a manuel lol.
well i have seen a little bit now and im pritty sure i can build the car for him, only problem we will have is the ignition managment i think,, if i take it on i might ask my mate to come up from pompy to help me as he's fitted turbo kits before (on civics)
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John
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From my limited knowledge of supras the auto is the one to have, the big power ones all use the auto.
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Andy Stocker
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ak is on holiday at the mo, back soon though I think
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AK
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home this morning...
We trip that felt like round the world Paris, Hong Kong, Singapore, Melaka, Singapore again then Amsterdam.
Supras - Just buy a MkIV TT. Converting a NA will just be a waste of cash and time.
OR - source a 2JZ GTE engine and gearbox and plonk it in. You prob need lots more to be safe too... brakes, shafts, difs.
DO NOT just bolt an Ebay turDbo onto the NA block.
My old silver one was a TT, with about 430 RWHP, (480+ at the fly) when sold.
BluKoo - Dave's corsa beat it once or twice i think when it was standard running high 13's. It wouldnt have had it so easy later on in its life
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ajscorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
home this morning...
We trip that felt like round the world Paris, Hong Kong, Singapore, Melaka, Singapore again then Amsterdam.
Supras - Just buy a MkIV TT. Converting a NA will just be a waste of cash and time.
OR - source a 2JZ GTE engine and gearbox and plonk it in. You prob need lots more to be safe too... brakes, shafts, difs.
DO NOT just bolt an Ebay turDbo onto the NA block.
My old silver one was a TT, with about 430 RWHP, (480+ at the fly) when sold.
BluKoo - Dave's corsa beat it once or twice i think when it was standard running high 13's. It wouldnt have had it so easy later on in its life
i remember everyone having to sit in the boot/car to hold the fukker down at the rr day in irvine lol
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DizzyRebel
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cheapest and easiest route would be to get a written off turbo car and put all the running gear and electrics into the n/a one
Seems a pointless exercise tbh, why build what you can buy?
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john_c20xe
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my mate got a spare turbo lump for his for 800quid easier to do that really
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Stoneyginger
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quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
Not sure, but he's the only person I know of on this site who's owned a Supra.
However, I think his might have been the 3.0 n/a too, so he wouldn't have any experience with the turbo.
He does like his jap stuff though. He's got a bit of a quick R32 Skyline.
Nope his was a 430bhp Twin turbo with the BPU installed, sold it after the rebuild though i shoudl have read the thread he got to it before i did 
[Edited on 28-07-2009 by Stoneyginger]
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Richardhhha
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hay all well i let him know it would be better off if he gets it done at the place who's quoting 3k for doing the conversion.
had a good ganders around and the only 2 kits i found that are any good (but could still use a map afterwards) are
Powerhouse Racing Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 1993-96 Supra Non-Turbo
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Boost Logic Turbo Kit for 1993-97 Supra Non-Turbo (and SC300) - Stage 1
heres the breakdown of what they say you get
Boost Logic Turbo Kit for 1993-97 Supra Non-Turbo (and SC300) - Stage 1
Part # Bst Log NA TK Stg1
This kit contains everything you need to convert your Non Turbo MKIV Supra or SC300 into a turbo charged sleeper. Here is the list of parts included:
* Boost Logic 321SS Tubular Manifold 1 5/8” Tubing and 1/2” Thick 321SS Flanges
* (Turbo’s with a 4” inlet clears the distributor. Manifold fits a turbo up to a T76)
* T61 Turbo w/ T4 flange
* HKS 40mm Wastegate
* 3” SS304 Polished Downpipe w/ Flex Joint
* 3” SS304 Polished Midpipe
* SS304 Polished Dump Tube
* 2 ˝” Polished Aluminum IC piping
* 3” Polished Aluminum Intake Pipe
* Boost Logic FMIC Kit
* Boost Logic NA-T SS Braided Oil Feed and Return Kit w/ Aeroquip fittings
* 3” K&N Filter
* K&N Breathers
* Walbro GSS341 255HP Fuel Pump w/ Install Kit
* All necessary clamps and bolts for installation
Note that your Supra must be non-VVTi for this kit to work!
MSRP $4,599.00
Your Price $4,499.00
and
Powerhouse Racing Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 1993-96 Supra Non-Turbo
Part # PHR Stage 1 MK4 NA
PHR was the originator of the turbo conversion market for the Non Turbo Supra back in 1994, so why consider any other brand? PHR turbo kits are the absolute best quality parts you can get anywhere. If you want a low quality kit made in someone’s garage in their spare time then you should not buy the PHR kit. Can anyone else offer you 11 years of work and knowledge on the MK4 Non-Turbo Supra?
This generation II system utilizes the latest in manufacturing technology to bring you the highest quality at the lowest price. This PHR Stage 1 kit features:
* Extreme 2000 Black Heat Coated Cast-steel Exhaust Manifold for the Ultimate in Reliability
* Garrett GT60 Turbocharger with Polished Compressor Housing
* Tial 44mm External Wastegate will all hardware included
* Stainless Steel Oil Feed and Drain Lines
* 2.5” Mandrel Bent Aluminum Intercooler Piping
* PHR 600x300x65mm Front Mounted Intercooler Core
* 3” Extreme 2000 Black Heat Coated Exhaust Downpipe and Midpipe
* 4” High Flow K&N Air Filter
* 4” Aluminum Air Inlet Piping
* All Hardware Necessary for a Complete Install!
The Stage 1 Single Turbo System for the Non-Turbo Supra offers approximately 310-320 RWHP for automatic owners and 320-330 RWHP for five speed manual cars at only 8 psi of boost pressure! This is equivalent to the power of a mildly modified Supra Twin Turbo, so don’t be afraid to show it off! Designed to work with all factory electronics, the PHR Stage 1 Single Turbo System delivers a broad horsepower and torque curve that adds approximately 140 RWHP to an otherwise stock Non-Turbo Supra. Of course, we recommend a high quality cat-back exhaust system be added, and other options are available (but not necessary) such as a Blow Off Valve, Clutch upgrade, and MAP ECU (fuel mapping computer).
Remember, the PHR Stage 1 Turbo System is designed to be a complete “bolt-on” turbo system, with no other additions required. We don’t sell you the turbo and require that you purchase an additional $2,000 in upgrades. This kit is everything you need all in one box, ready to install and run. Also, we can customize your Turbo Kit with blue, black, or red silicone couplings at no additional charge.
While installation is relatively straightforward, we do recommend that the installation be performed by a qualified person with the proper tools and equipment to do the job right. This system is currently only available for the 1993-96 model Non-Turbo Supra due to variances in the air metering system.
The dyno shown here is a comparison between a stock Non-Turbo and the same Supra after installing the PHR Stage 1 Kit!
For a larger view of the dyno please click here.
This Stage 1 kit is upgradeable to the PHR Stage 2 kit later on if you decide you need even more power, just contact us for pricing and availability. To choose the color of silicone couplers you want included in the kit, please click on More Info.
MSRP $4,995.00
Your Price $4,725.00
told him i can fit one for him but i'd want about 800 for doing it as it would be my neck on the chopping block if the block decided to pop (he's a little throttle happy)
anyways thought i'd let you all know.
oh and AK as i said before these arn't cheep ebay jobies mate, i know that if you want something thats gona work then you got to put the propper money into it.
Rich
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