DAZ1985
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pro's and cons?
are they over rated?
do they handle ok?
b16 engined ones
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Eck
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They handle fantastically well. Brilliant suspension set up. Pro's obviously are amazing power per litre, very quick and amazing reliability.
Cons; I don't know much. People say lack of torque, but they have more torque than any of the rivals (eg, GTi, Sport etc). All in, a fantastic car.
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sand-eel
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low torque compared to bhp, probably why people think they have no torque 
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Eck
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That;s about it really mate. But they still have more torque than the rivals
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DAZ1985
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well im thinking about a 106 replacement. if after the remap its not how i want it to be. so sounds like i cant go wrong tbh
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Eck
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What mods does the 16v have?
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DAZ1985
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tu5jp4 engine
kms management
newmans ph3 cams
raceland 4 branch
2inch pugsport
raceland enclosed filter
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Eck
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The civic will be quite a bit slower than that around a track tbh!
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DAZ1985
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maybe true that
i will have to see after a re map as its on standard timing and standard map atm
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Nic Barnes
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id not bother tbh
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DAZ1985
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not bother with what nic?
map or changing car?
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
maybe true that
i will have to see after a re map as its on standard timing and standard map atm
It really WILL be quicker I embarassed a DC2 from a standing start a good while back in my strpped 16v. So your one with 150+bhp will easily out pace a B16A2 Civic. And handling wise there isn't much btter for the money. A Civic is superior in the suspension department, but the shitey torsion bar works very well in such a light motor.
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Nic Barnes
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id say the 106 would be more fun really
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DAZ1985
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my mates dc2 pulls after 100 but thats not everyday i do them speeds, im thinking about a s1 rallye box too
i do hope your right nic
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Damian_666
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honda ftw! specially if you going to track it! thats where they all belong! and deff a eg! a eg with a dc2 b18c or b16a2 engine with supporting handling mods it will shit all over a pug on track! 
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flybikeslee
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egs more prone to rusty arches being older
Eks dearer with them beng newer, still rust on the back arches and are ever so slightly heavier than the eg. Ek gets better interior Imo.
both hold value really wel for the Vtis
both excellent cars, go drive one, you'll love it.
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Eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Damian_666
honda ftw! specially if you going to track it! thats where they all belong! and deff a eg! a eg with a dc2 b18c or b16a2 engine with supporting handling mods it will shit all over a pug on track!
But how much will he have to spend to put a B18 into a Civic? And please, you need to read up on a 150+bhp XSi vs a B16 Civic. There will be NO competiton what so ever
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P1CK4D
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In all honesty i'd say keep with the 106. Sounds like you have spent a small some already and your running out of things to do, hence why your thinking of the change. Re-map and enjoy! Civic's are hit and miss with performance, some go so well, some just don't (damo  ) But they're handling is outstanding which can make up for they're performance if in the hands of the right driver.
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corsa_rob
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i wud say stick with the pug...the logic of power to weight says it all!
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DAZ1985
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Im half tempted to stick some tbs on before the map now save mapping it twice, if im keeping it.
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CorsaSport14
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eg sir all the way mate 
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Jamie_Hastings1
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Mate had a EK Vti and it couldn't have move. 140mph easy. No one really no what was done to it. He know has a 2.2 Eg and it bet a Scooby STi the other night there. Other mate has a jordan and its really slow,got a 182bhp on the rollers but a Vts beats it. And theres a another EK Vti that goes about and its not that quick. It really depends on them,some are really quick some arent.
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
Im half tempted to stick some tbs on before the map now save mapping it twice, if im keeping it.
YES!
Sounds amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnxxUjA4MkI
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Nic Barnes
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