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Daveskater
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I was following a Mini on the way to work this morning and was having loads of fun watching its suspension cope quite well with the ditches and craters in the road, so got thinking - has a Corsa with independent rear suspension been done before? Not one that has an engine in the back etc though, just a normal FWD one.


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yes most people rallying corsa's do it
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Cool

Do you know what stuff they use?


Numberwang!

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I have pictures somewhere, can't find them though

Edit: I think this is independent



[Edited on 09-07-2009 by Ellis]
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I think someone on here was doing it using a Proton setup iirc
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^^^ that is independant, yes but RWD.
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Here is my design for a 205 GTI one, running Mcpherson struts, maybe I will design one for a corsa B have been thinking this for a while.
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What advantage would it have over using a full coilover kit front and rear?
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in other news is your car sprayed yet fruitbooter?
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What advantage would it have over using a full coilover kit front and rear?
It'd be totally different because the two rear wheels aren't tied together.

Mr Eel, what program did you use to draw that?


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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
^^^ that is independant, yes but RWD.


According to the bootlid,its 4wd.
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someone makes them for the fiesta zetec s / mk5 escort ect out of tubular steel, using original damper mountings, shouldnt be to hard to make one for a corsa
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HHMS are your friends.
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dont you have to do some cutting and welding though?
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I would guess so.
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cut the original beam in half and make some pivot points ion the middle, pikey job well done
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quote:
Originally posted by boz_gsi
dont you have to do some cutting and welding though?


No shit...
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unless you're planning on gravel rallying, its not gonna make a masive difference to the cars ability tbh, in tarmac trim there is very little suspension movement at the rear end anyway
it will also may end up weighing more than the stock beam, nice for a engineering project though, i imagine the one above has been converted to independant mainly because of its 4wd conversion

[Edited on 09-07-2009 by lee303]
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quote:
Originally posted by Daveskater
quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What advantage would it have over using a full coilover kit front and rear?
It'd be totally different because the two rear wheels aren't tied together.

Mr Eel, what program did you use to draw that?


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quote:
Originally posted by john_c20xe
cut the original beam in half and make some pivot points ion the middle, pikey job well done



It will still be pivoted badly, so when you turn a corner, camber will still become more positive.
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quote:
Originally posted by lee303
unless you're planning on gravel rallying, its not gonna make a masive difference to the cars ability tbh, in tarmac trim there is very little suspension movement at the rear end anyway
it will also may end up weighing more than the stock beam, nice for a engineering project though, i imagine the one above has been converted to independant mainly because of its 4wd conversion

[Edited on 09-07-2009 by lee303]


Its not the movement or that the wheels are connected, the camber issues, also if its designed properly it doesn't have to be heavy, mine only weighs 12kgs, made from aluminium and can take a 22 ton sideways impact ie smashing into a kerb.
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
quote:
Originally posted by john_c20xe
cut the original beam in half and make some pivot points ion the middle, pikey job well done



It will still be pivoted badly, so when you turn a corner, camber will still become more positive.


The factory rear beams axis of rotation is transverse, not longitudinal, therefore the camber would not become more positive on the rear under cornering, it would remain constant.
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
quote:
Originally posted by Daveskater
quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
What advantage would it have over using a full coilover kit front and rear?
It'd be totally different because the two rear wheels aren't tied together.

Mr Eel, what program did you use to draw that?
Pro/Engineer
Not heard of that. I've been using SketchUp to do a model of my house [/offtopic]


Numberwang!

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Originally posted by sand-eel


Here is my design for a 205 GTI one, running Mcpherson struts, maybe I will design one for a corsa B have been thinking this for a while.


thats abit overally complicated cause if you look a 205 beam for years people tap a bigger thread in the ARB, take the torsion bars out and drill and tap holes in the arms to take coilover units and turret the rear, current set up i've seen in a quite a few hill climb cars.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
quote:
Originally posted by boz_gsi
dont you have to do some cutting and welding though?


No shit...

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