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Nic Barnes

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29th May 09 at 19:34

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Originally posted by BluKoo

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Originally posted by BluKoo
Well the mk2 RS is more powerful, faster, and just as lairy looking, so i'd say its pretty close.

its not about the power etc, its just not a special car like the cosworths were, and never will be.

Okay, but going back to what i said, its the modern day cosworth, in insurance terms at least.

not a chance. id bet a cossie would cost far more to insure than a focus with a bodykit. one is a cosworth, the other is a bodykit with an engine conversion. one special, other is very friday night car park doing j-turns.

BluKoo

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29th May 09 at 19:36

You really don't get what i'm saying do you?

I'm not saying they're directly comparable, but the Mk2 RS is to Ford now, what the Escort Cosworth was to Ford when it was first released.

Just incase anyone is slightly interested...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/longtermtests/235889/ford_focus_rs_2670_miles.html?CMP=NLC-Newsletters

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by BluKoo]

DannyB

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29th May 09 at 19:38

I'd love to see a cossie against one, wonder if it would be a repeat of the infamous Top Gear episode

Nic Barnes

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29th May 09 at 19:40

yes i get you. your saying that the new focus rs is like the cosworth back in the day. but its not, and never will be.

in terms of corsasport discussions. a ford cant be classed as special, or remotely exciting unless mr ford, aka jr makes loads of posts about them.

there is just no way a fwd volvo engined bodykit is fords modern day idea of the cosworth. maybe your right. probably better off asking the cosworth people if they think its the modern day version or just some lame bodykit being badged as an rs.

BluKoo

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29th May 09 at 19:44

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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
blah, blah, blah...

in terms of corsasport discussions...

blah, blah, blah.

I guess thats where we're going wrong here

You're intitled to your opinion, but so am i.
I know the Focus RS is the modern day equivelant to the Escort Cosworth. It might not be as "special" as you put it (yet), but give it 10 years.

Anyway, i'll report back here tomorrow with pics.

Stu

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29th May 09 at 19:51

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I know the Focus RS is the modern day equivelant to the Escort Cosworth. It might not be as "special" as you put it (yet), but give it 10 years.

Its nice and like I say I do like it but it cant be compared to a Cosworth Escort, it just shares too many similarities to a normal Focus!

The RS is technically a reworked Focus with a beefy engine and a kit.

The Escort Cosworth was soooooooo much different to any production Escort (which was an absolutely shit car!)

BluKoo

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29th May 09 at 20:01

I don't know that much about the Escort cosworth, but mechanically speaking, wasn't the Escort cosworth an RS2000 with a turbo?
And aesthetically, it was just an Escort with a bodykit.

Anyway, you guys are getting side tracked. When i said it was a modern day equivelant i was meaning, its the fastest and most power hatchback Ford available. And its got an RS badge. Do you see what i mean?

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by BluKoo]

taylorboosh

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29th May 09 at 20:08

tbh they are nice, but no nicer than st's where when they came out. i would love to own either tbh, but id far rather own an escort cosworth, what nic is saying is the escort cosworth was so far ahead of the rest of the competition etc when it came out, where as the focus rs is no better than the rest of the sporty turbo hatchbacks on the market...........least i think he means that

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29th May 09 at 20:10

quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
I don't know that much about the Escort cosworth, but mechanically speaking, wasn't the Escort cosworth an RS2000 with a turbo?
And aesthetically, it was just an Escort with a bodykit.
[Edited on 29-05-2009 by BluKoo]

No its not a rs2000 with a turbo and a bodykit, it does iirc not share more than 1 or 2 panels with a rs2000.

Jambo

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29th May 09 at 20:18

i agree with Ash and Nic.

Focus Rs was in no way a comparison to the cossie.

Drive train alone is reason enough.

I want a cossie

DannyB

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29th May 09 at 20:24

After seeing the blue one again today I now think the white is the nicer colour, is ur dads white Blukoo yeah?

SportBoy

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29th May 09 at 20:25

the escort kind of shared *dare i say it* alot of sierra cosworth parts or so i have allways seen and been led to belive.

Jambo

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29th May 09 at 20:27

same chassis/floorpan no?

I know its rear quarters are 3/4" longer than a normal escort

Stu

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29th May 09 at 20:29

quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo
Mechanically speaking, wasn't the Escort cosworth an RS2000 with a turbo and a bodykit?

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by BluKoo]

Serious?

1) Sierra Floorpan
2) Sierra 4WD system
3) Extended rear wings to accommodate the extra length
4) Cosworth Engine
5) Borg Warner T5 box
6) Homologation rear wing

And Im no expert...........there are probably hundreds of differences all as major as the ones above!!!

BluKoo

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29th May 09 at 20:30

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Originally posted by DannyB
After seeing the blue one again today I now think the white is the nicer colour, is ur dads white Blukoo yeah?

Sure is...

Stu

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29th May 09 at 20:30

But all that aside, I like the RS and white is mega!!!!

BluKoo

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29th May 09 at 20:34

Ah well, as i said, "I don't know that much about the Escort cosworth".

You guys still seem to be gettin side-tracked with what i said and meant.

Jake

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29th May 09 at 20:35

the car is abit of a penis extension isnt it? i mean why the fuck would they badge a fwd car as an RS in the first place?

Stu

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29th May 09 at 20:35

Looks mint in that pic above on the move!!!

Colin

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29th May 09 at 20:37

Im still gagging for a test drive!!

I think it will carry a similar amount of hype as the cossie did. The escort wasnt exactly an animal in standard tune it was what people done with them tunning wise & the awesome chassis & 4WD system than made them great.

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29th May 09 at 20:39

quote:
Originally posted by BluKoo

You guys still seem to be gettin side-tracked with what i said and meant.

I understood it tbh. People getting their knickers in as twist too easily.

Escort Cossie = High end midsized hatchback Ford back in the day.
Focus RS = High end midsized hatchback Ford now.

Jake

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29th May 09 at 20:42

yeh but nath

Escort Cossie = Revolutionary
Focus RS = Not Revolutionary

SportBoy

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29th May 09 at 20:46

wouldnt say it was revolutionary? .. didnt audi beat them too it

SXI - Matt

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29th May 09 at 20:47

Saw one the other day on my way to work first time iv seen one, was flying around a roundabout off the a14 must say it did look good and planted so aggresive looking

[Edited on 29-05-2009 by SXI - Matt]

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29th May 09 at 20:49

i know what u mean about the cossie thing, i think in 15 years time, people will love the new Rs as much as people love the cossie now!

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