NovaGTE2
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Just had a call from Direct line and my old TT which i handed into the police is going to be released; its being released to the salvage compand dhales who are putting it on the auction site; dhales will allow me to bid being the innocent purchasers (as they normally only sale to trade). I have no idea what sort of money the car is worth and how much to go upto.
Its a 1.8 TT roadster; the 163BHP FWD model (or something like that; the one above the 150bhp anyway)
Black with cream leather.
55 plate,
i think the car had 30K on the clock; but when i looked into it had been clocked to the cloned cars millage; but audi beleieved it to be lower than this from there records.
No MOT or Tax, or Service history
Been stood for over a year now
The car was in VGC and even had £70 worth a fuel in when i handed it in :mad
I have no idea what CAT it will go on or what sort of price to expect to pay; any one have any ideas?
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Colin
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It will be cat D probably. Its worth about 2/3's of a similar one with no dodgy history.
1. I wouldnt have thought they would have put a cloned car back on the road - stollen Yes - cloned - No! 
2. Do you really want it back!? You got a pay out? Probably lost out on it. Id never want to see the thing again!!
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baza31
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it wont be recorded inless smashed up , just be down on SR register. Something like that id be looking at paying £3k
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NovaGTE2
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Didnt have a pay out no as i had the cloned car so handed to police rather than stolen from me  Luckily only lost a couple of Thousand as activated the tracker on the BMW and the c*nts were arested!!
I kinda do want it back as better than what i have now for little money; and was a really nice car.
I think it will be more than £3K if im honest; prob more like £6K or £7K!
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DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
it wont be recorded inless smashed up , just be down on SR register. Something like that id be looking at paying £3k
Stolen recovered cars normally end up C or D.. 
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baza31
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you bought a ringed motor is that what your saying?
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NovaGTE2
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
you bought a ringed motor is that what your saying?
Not ringed no; cloned. Nothing wrong with the car apart from its identity changed
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baza31
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
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Originally posted by baza31
it wont be recorded inless smashed up , just be down on SR register. Something like that id be looking at paying £3k
Stolen recovered cars normally end up C or D..
Since when? I have bought plenty of SR cars , none of category register.
only time they would put it on a d is if there if damage from the theft, but nowadays keys are used so there is no damage
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Twiggy
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I would not want that back
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NovaGTE2
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But Chasis plates have been tampered with; all stickers under the bonet with appropriate numbers for the car changed and the ECU cracked to re-programme the millage; the car isnt damage nor it its genuine and a standard stolen recovered!
Im hoping it goes on CAT C to be honest then it will be worth less!!!
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by baza31
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
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Originally posted by baza31
it wont be recorded inless smashed up , just be down on SR register. Something like that id be looking at paying £3k
Stolen recovered cars normally end up C or D..
Since when? I have bought plenty of SR cars , none of category register.
only time they would put it on a d is if there if damage from the theft, but nowadays keys are used so there is no damage
I suppose thats normally the case, they tend to be damaged in some way or form  Ah well its not like a VIC check is a ball ache if it is
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baza31
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quote:
Originally posted by NovaGTE2
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Originally posted by baza31
you bought a ringed motor is that what your saying?
Not ringed no; cloned. Nothing wrong with the car apart from its identity changed
So why did they change identity? one of cars must of been stolen .Thats happenning a fair bit now, people have a mirror car, register good car in a false name, pretend log book has been lost and apply for another. Upon getting 2nd log book they go and sell both cars . easy peasy
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DaveyLC
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quote:
Originally posted by NovaGTE2
But Chasis plates have been tampered with; all stickers under the bonet with appropriate numbers for the car changed and the ECU cracked to re-programme the millage; the car isnt damage nor it its genuine and a standard stolen recovered!
Im hoping it goes on CAT C to be honest then it will be worth less!!!
If the chassis plates have been tampered with and its on the reigster I wouldnt touch it.. If it goes CAT C and requires a VIC you will have problems if they are dubious about the ID.
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baza31
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am supprised , they will only put the "original" good car back on the road, the other will be crushed or put on a q plate also needing SVA. We has an 54 plate rs4 that had to be crushed  was twinned up and used in "criminal activity" i was devistated seeing it get crushed, saying that just about stripped everything off it first lol
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NovaGTE2
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
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Originally posted by NovaGTE2
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Originally posted by baza31
you bought a ringed motor is that what your saying?
Not ringed no; cloned. Nothing wrong with the car apart from its identity changed
So why did they change identity? one of cars must of been stolen .Thats happenning a fair bit now, people have a mirror car, register good car in a false name, pretend log book has been lost and apply for another. Upon getting 2nd log book they go and sell both cars . easy peasy
Its a bit clever than that these days
The log book of a car which was on an audi forcourt was applied for in an identity theft name; then when the old owner gets a request for someone to change the name they dont raise any queries as they have sold the car to the garage. This takes a few weeks and when the c*nts get the log book back they then steal a car with the keys which matches the description and spec of the one on the log book; changes the plates, VIM plates and all engine number and identity markings on the car (of which there is a lot on an Audi TT); get a service book and get it stamped, change the millage on the car to that of the one they are cloning. Then sale the car; the c*nt even had a driving licence with his pic and the identity of the person who was on the log book!!
All professional stuff these days
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Gsi_Ire
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They only bit I dont understand is how you buy it back.
The car you want to buy back must technicaly have no identity for want of a better word.
I assume the current VIN plate etc has tp be taken off, other wise its still a clone.
Will that cost you more money then to get a VIN or is it left without a VIN?
Idiot questions I am sure, but I am just wondering!
[Edited on 29-05-2009 by Gsi_Ire]
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NovaGTE2
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quote:
Originally posted by Gsi_Ire
They only bit I dont understand is how you buy it back.
The car you want to buy back must technicaly have no identity for want of a better word.
I assume the current VIN plate etc has tp be taken off, other wise its still a clone.
Will that cost you more money then to get a VIN or is it left without a VIN?
Idiot questions I am sure, but I am just wondering!
[Edited on 29-05-2009 by Gsi_Ire]
The original identity has been proven to a satisfactory level; im not sure from where but maybe the original vin plates had just been welded over or something But that is why it can go back on the road on its original number plate
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Gsi_Ire
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Ah, very good. didnt realise the had found out the original identity of the car.
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MarkM
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Wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
Also as you're a trader I especially wouldn't touch it as it would put potential purchasers off buying it.
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Colin
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I was thinking the same its going to be tricky explaining that story to Joe Public when you decide to sell it in 3 weeks time!! 
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