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Huffski
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17th May 09 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why do they make a 140 bhp model and a 180 model what they do to make the power from 140 to 180 ? im looking at getting the 140 model because its cheaper just wondering if its easy to make it the same power a the 180 version? cheers
myatt
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17th May 09 at 14:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i herd the 180 have a kind of v-tec?? dont know how true it is ?
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17th May 09 at 14:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The 180 is the far better car. It has improved suspension with bigger ARBs, rear bracing and has stability and traction control.

The 138 isn't that far off it handling wise or speed wise.

The engines use the same EW10J4 block but the 180 has in improved head with bigger valves, improved combustion chamber design and VVT.

It is very easy to get a 138 to the same power as a 180. for a start, the 180 is more like 170bhp. A set of weber 45's and mappable ignition will get 190 bhp for little over £800.

Due to the equal length drive shafts they don't suffer as much from torque steer, but really would benefit from an LSD.

hth


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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the 206 gti 180 isnt 180 bhp
they down tuned it from the factory to 145 bhp if i remeber correctly as they werent reloable at all,
even tho the 2.0 engines are forged from the factory!
newer registrations dont even have the 180 badge on it as they wernt aloud to call it the 180 anymore,

i done a training program on it at work quite some time ago
it was saying how its beem underated due to the power they was suposed to produce,
im sure they do quater miles in about 16-17 seconds too




[Edited on 17-05-2009 by john_c20xe]
Edd
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17th May 09 at 15:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ste W
The 180 is the far better car. It has improved suspension with bigger ARBs, rear bracing and has stability and traction control.

The 138 isn't that far off it handling wise or speed wise.

The engines use the same EW10J4 block but the 180 has in improved head with bigger valves, improved combustion chamber design and VVT.

It is very easy to get a 138 to the same power as a 180. for a start, the 180 is more like 170bhp. A set of weber 45's and mappable ignition will get 190 bhp for little over £800.

Due to the equal length drive shafts they don't suffer as much from torque steer, but really would benefit from an LSD.

hth



later 138bhp models came with traction and esp aswell


not much difference between the two on the road but the 180 will pull away over 90

as its a higher revving engine
RCS
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17th May 09 at 15:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I might try and get a GTi 180 head for our engine, was designed by Mecachrome.
Corsa_Sport21
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17th May 09 at 15:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by john_c20xe
the 206 gti 180 isnt 180 bhp
they down tuned it from the factory to 145 bhp if i remeber correctly as they werent reloable at all,
even tho the 2.0 engines are forged from the factory!
newer registrations dont even have the 180 badge on it as they wernt aloud to call it the 180 anymore,

i done a training program on it at work quite some time ago
it was saying how its beem underated due to the power they was suposed to produce,
im sure they do quater miles in about 16-17 seconds too




[Edited on 17-05-2009 by john_c20xe]


Pish,theyr is no way they are as low as 145bhp and they will do the 1/4 in high 15s.
Gizzy
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17th May 09 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mate Jacko got 206 gti 180 with jujst exhaust and filter and he was running 15's allday at Kirkbride by end of day he was into 14's
john_c20xe
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17th May 09 at 17:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

PSA training program must be lying then!
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17th May 09 at 18:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by john_c20xe
PSA training program must be lying then!


Ive heard that the engine runs around 165bhp-180bhp, a lot of GTi 180 owners have seen those kind of figures on a rolling road.

Ive never seen a GTi 180 without the badge on the back, unless the owner removes the badge, they were sold as GTi 180s until they ended production.
john_c20xe
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17th May 09 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

in our peugeot dealership i have only every seen about 9 206's with 180 badges,
but fair enough must just be down my end of the country,

will have to query the training program next time i go on a course
Paul_J
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17th May 09 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get the 180 imo.
Jambo
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17th May 09 at 21:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

180s are drop dead gorgeous.
Pop
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17th May 09 at 21:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The 180 is a bit more of a ball ache to tune because of the wiring.
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17th May 09 at 21:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You'll get a lot of good info on www.206info.co.uk
richc
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
180s are drop dead gorgeous.


in that arden blue stlye cool
Ste
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17th May 09 at 23:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My 180 was in adriatic blue and looked


I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
lil_hobbo
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18th May 09 at 05:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my mums got the 180 and id have one dont think i would have the lower engine sized one after driving it
taylorboosh
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18th May 09 at 06:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had the 140 and it was a good little car, rear torsion bar went tits up and its a full rear axle to replace, expensive. half leather seats are nice but should of been more supportive

 
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