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Author What do think of Corsa B EPAS?
Partyvan
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7th May 09 at 16:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I am getting a Corsa B rolling shell in the next couple of days with EPAS fitted as standard, and doing a C20LET conversion on it.

What do you think of EPAS?
Is it speed sensitive?
Too heavy/light?
Any good for track use?
Does it make any problems with the conversion?

Cheers in advance
AlunJ
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7th May 09 at 16:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think its shite on my brothers corsa b... maybe its just his lol
Partyvan
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quote:
Originally posted by AlunJ
I think its shite on my brothers corsa b... maybe its just his lol


How do you mean shite? Too light and vague???
AdamF
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7th May 09 at 17:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i personally think it is excellent. a major help when doing a xe/let conversion its just one wire and no pipes anywhere in the engine bay.

however i found it far to sensitive and light for track use.

i tried pulling the fuse when on track aswel and this only made it worse
SportBoy
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cant say what its like on modifeid cars but as standard i think its shit , nasty feel etc but it would be good for a conversion as it means more room under the bonnet.
AlunJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
quote:
Originally posted by AlunJ
I think its shite on my brothers corsa b... maybe its just his lol


How do you mean shite? Too light and vague???


I mean it feels so damn heavy at slow speed it may as well not be there

feels alright on the C but a tad light at motorway speeds (never happy I know!)
the fluid PAS on my old B was perfect

[Edited on 07-05-2009 by AlunJ]
Warren G
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7th May 09 at 17:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by AdamF
i personally think it is excellent. a major help when doing a xe/let conversion its just one wire and no pipes anywhere in the engine bay.

however i found it far to sensitive and light for track use.

i tried pulling the fuse when on track aswel and this only made it worse


whats that one wire?

my eps light is on, havent got round to checking

to i have to wire it in somewhere on the old ecu loom?
Ojc
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7th May 09 at 17:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's the best steering setup for the Corsa I know that.

Dunno what it's like on track, but it was good around Reading Ring Road.
Ste L
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7th May 09 at 17:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
whats that one wire?

my eps light is on, havent got round to checking

to i have to wire it in somewhere on the old ecu loom?



i thought it was 4 wire's...

switched live
perm live
earth
speed sender
tomo9992
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7th May 09 at 17:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

HOW MUCH WOULD 1 OF THESE SET YOU BACK THEN?

(sorry for caps lol)
AdamF
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7th May 09 at 17:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you have to run a wire from the rev counter wire to the green wire under the drivers side kick panel on the epas ecu
Craig P
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7th May 09 at 17:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sorry for Hi-Jacking,But how Hard is it to put on a 1.4 with a Converted 1.6 Engine?So basically 1.4 Loom,But 1.6 ECU?

Also how much could you pick a Set-up for?
Partyvan
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Oh wow, this sounds great LOL... too heavy at slow speed and too light at high speed.

I do like the idea of not having the pump hanging off the engine though (more room for FMIC pipes and oil cooler)

I'll give it a chance and if it's terrible then I'll look into perhaps getting some electrical wizardry to vary the current to the motor with road speed
Nic Barnes
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7th May 09 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you can buy "chipped" ecu's for it as its commonly used in rallying so it isnt too light for lowered cars or at higher speeds or something. ive read about it before. just cant find any of the links anymore.
Joel_Sxi
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7th May 09 at 18:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think its great on a standard car not sure about it for a modified one tho
P1CK4D
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7th May 09 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fantastic and works perfectly well on my Corsa. Wouldnt want any other set-up tbh. Mine will be far sale for £120. Complete.
Partyvan
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Interestingly I just read on MIG that Giles (£30k Cav XE on TB's) uses this EPAS and loves it.
P1CK4D
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quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
Interestingly I just read on MIG that Giles (£30k Cav XE on TB's) uses this EPAS and loves it.


That to me doesn't really sound all that interesting
Partyvan
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
quote:
Originally posted by Partyvan
Interestingly I just read on MIG that Giles (£30k Cav XE on TB's) uses this EPAS and loves it.


That to me doesn't really sound all that interesting


263bhp, 177lb (with more to come).

Brief spec as follows:

Engine: 16 valve dohc 20xe, Omega 88.0mm forged pistons, early (lighter) XE crank, HG1 (late spec) block, balanced Arrow steel conrods, ARP Pro2000 series rod bolts, ARP headstud kit, SBD (Pace) dry sump system with Slim Jim pump, ultra slim sump pan, aeroquip –12 & -10 oil system hoses with Earls connectors, SBD/Pace oil header tank, SBD dipstick blanking kit, SBD billet aluminium multivee crank pulley, new genuine GM idler and tensioner pulleys, coscast head heavily flowed and ported by Hellier Performance with modified and enlarged inlet and exhaust ports and bigger valve seats also matched to inlet manifold , SBD head and block cooling modifications, SBD tapped & threaded head waterway modification, SBD/Cometic steel composite head gasket, SBD 310 degree inlet camshaft, SBD 300 degree exhaust camshaft, SBD +2mm highflow (waisted stem) inlet valves, SBD +1mm highflow exhaust valves, Colsobro valve guides, SBD twin valve springs, SBD solid lifters, CatCams shims, SBD titanium valve caps, SBD valve spring seats, multi-angle valve seats, SBD Taper throttle bodies, 90mm SBD ram pipes, SBD inlet manifold matched to enlarged ports, Jenvey throttle linkage kit, ITG JC50 air filter, MBE 967E engine management with fault and shift light output, QED dizzy blanking kit, wasted spark coil pack, professional loom with shift and fault light outputs, new Beru HT leads, SBD fuel rail, Earls JIC fuel pipe connectors throughout, Peco high flow fuel injectors, Simpsons Race Exhaust large bore stainless steel exhaust manifold (to SBD Spec), blue SFS silcon hoses, Firdenza composite aluminium flywheel (3.4kg complete), ARP flywheel bolts, Helix ceramic paddle clutch, Helix heavy duty clutch pressure plate, Helix clutch thrust bearing.

Yeah sounds really dull
P1CK4D
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Reading a Spec list really doesn't do anything for me. Watching it go however would.
Ian
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7th May 09 at 20:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm glad this is getting good reviews as I've already ripped out my standard PAS

Going to get an entire car. The systems go for around 100-150. Only need to sell a few bits and you could be square on a stripper.
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
Reading a Spec list really doesn't do anything for me. Watching it go however would.


It goes alright
Ian
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110386538280&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

Has this got it?
sand-eel
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7th May 09 at 20:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It should I think all 1.0 12v and 1.2 16v have them.
Was going to use an epas system on my rally car as the epas on my B sxi was not bad really a tad light but really not that bad at all. All epas are a bit vague its just the way it is.
Craig P
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quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
Fantastic and works perfectly well on my Corsa. Wouldnt want any other set-up tbh. Mine will be far sale for £120. Complete.


Ill Buy this Mate

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